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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 97: FISA Part Deux (A Deeper Dive)

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 26 October 2018

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Aaaaand we're back!  Yesterday we posted the first in a series of Deep Dive episodes on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, covering the origins and early-evolution of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.  Today, we pick up the thread with two critical aspects of the story: the rise and (seeming) fall of "the wall" between foreign intelligence and law enforcement investigations; and the rise and fall and transformed-revival of the Terrorist Surveillance Program But wait, there's more...we figured out early-on in this episode that we will need much more time to cover all that we want to cover.  And so this is not the deepest dive we'll take on the FISA topic.  Next week, in episode 98, we'll dive deeper still in order to complete the transition from TSP to 702, and then to discuss an array of other topics including the bulk metadata story and, inevitably, Snowden. Meanwhile, plans for our live 100th episode taping in Washington on Wednesday November 14th (12:15-1:45) at American University's Washington College of Law are in place!  The event will be in Yuma Hall Room 401, and the whole thing is thanks to our colleague Prof. Jen Daskal.  Thanks Jen.  Please RSVP here if you are planning to attend!   And don't forget -- the deadline to get an NSL Podcast t-shirt is Halloween.  Order here!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin, and welcome to episode 97 of the National Security Law podcast.

0:15.2

We're brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.

0:18.3

It's Friday morning, October 26. I'm Bobby Chesney.

0:21.5

I'm Steve Vladik.

0:22.2

We're not we just here?

0:23.3

We are deep diving again.

0:26.3

Back to back.

0:27.1

Deep, part two, the Empire Strikes Back?

0:31.0

I prefer Part D.

0:32.5

Part D.

0:33.5

Hot shots.

0:34.2

Hot shots.

0:35.0

Part Dia.

0:36.8

I still think the greatest sequel title ever in history that was unfortunately not used was Space Balls 3, the search for Space Balls 2.

0:46.2

That's probably right.

0:47.1

I can't come up with anything better than that.

0:48.8

You've given me an idea for frivolity, by the way.

0:50.7

Best Charlie Sheen movies.

0:52.6

Or worst, that's the case may be.

0:55.2

It's a fine line.

0:57.7

Yeah. That'll be for another occasion because I suspect. It's so you see my love. There's a fine line between love and nausea. Coming to America.

1:02.5

All right. We, so we started this whole deep dive thing yesterday. Yes. FISA focused? Indeed. Before we get to, we have some announcements coming before we get back into it.

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