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It's Complicated

Episode 98 | Is Trump Now Immune From Prosecution? Well, It’s Complicated.

It's Complicated

Renato Mariotti

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 14 November 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

In this very special episode, hosts Renato Mariotti and Asha Rangappa are joined by seasoned legal expert and commentator Ken White to discuss the perplexing legalities and terrifying consequences of Trump’s new unchecked presidential power.   Subscribe to our Patreon here, where paid members will get access to exclusive portions of this show. patreon.com/reallyamericanmedia Renato, a former federal prosecutor, and Asha, a Yale law professor, recap Trump’s remaining legal battles, and explore the contentious decision by Jack Smith and the Department of Justice to charge Donald in the first place. You’ll also hear an in-depth examination of how Merrick Garland’s slow, cautious approach compares to the rapid, decisive actions we’ve seen in previous administrations. Despite the recent unsettling Supreme Court decision granting broad immunity to presidents, our guest Ken White argues that pursuing due process and protecting constitutional safeguards is always vital to democracy. Even when the outcomes may appear grim. Renato, Asha, and Ken urge prosecution for local actors involved in election-related misconduct, to serve as a deterrent on other grassroots level actors. We’ll also review how the states play a critical role in serving as one of the essential checks on federal overreach. Our hosts discuss how things might have played out if charges against Trump had been brought sooner, and in a more conducive legal environment.  We’ll also review how past political climates, and counterfactual scenarios have shifted judicial opinions and outcomes. And finally, Asha and Renato argue that we must take a more proactive stance to rectify the glaring flaws in our institutions that Trump has revealed. As difficult as it might be to accept these new political and legal realities, our brave hosts encourage us to maintain a cautious optimism, and stress the importance of public awareness in upholding democratic values. Stay tuned for future must-listen episodes, where we will continue to unravel legal landscapes, confront systemic issues, and illuminate the paths to enduring reform. Stay engaged and informed as Renato and Asha navigate the labyrinth of American democracy, one episode at a time.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

So Renato, was it a bad idea for Jack Smith to charge Donald Trump in the first place?

0:07.0

It's complicated.

0:10.0

I'm Renato Marietti. I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer, and a legal analyst.

0:20.0

And I'm Asha Rangappa. I teach national security law at Yale University.

0:24.8

I'm a former FBI special agent, and I'm a legal contributor for ABC News.

0:29.9

And I'm Ken White. I'm thrilled to be a guest today. And I'm a former federal prosecutor,

0:35.0

a criminal defense attorney, and practicing attorney, and podcaster.

0:39.0

And we're here to help you understand topics that can't be boiled down into a southite or a skeet.

0:48.5

And that's a good starting point here because the reason that we have Ken on our episode today for this episode is that

0:57.5

Asha and I have like many millions of people move to blue sky where tweets are called skeets

1:03.4

and we saw a really compelling skeet from Ken. Hi Ken. Hi, As, Renato. How are you? Good.

1:12.1

We're happy to have you on.

1:14.0

Yeah, you're like a blast of the past.

1:16.0

Yeah, that's true.

1:17.0

Because, yes.

1:19.3

Well, you know, on.

1:20.9

When did we have him on?

1:23.2

Renato and I were on a podcast years ago, I think somewhere in the middle of the, of series of cases against now president-elect again, Donald Trump.

1:33.1

And the worm has turned.

1:35.2

And now we're talking about many of the same cases but from a different direction.

1:39.6

Yeah.

1:39.8

And I feel like you and I were on a podcast, too, about something at some point.

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