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Yes, we've made it.

This is the end of 2017.

I am your host, Brad Rowland, and joining me for the final episode of the year, the great Scott Coleman.

What's up, Scott?

What's up, Brad?

Thanks for having me on.

It's my pleasure, as always. I'm out of it it as we've, none of you will know this by now, but this is actually

our second attempt at the podcast because I'm really bad at talking in recorded form. But here we

are. It's actually New Year's Eve. This podcast will go up on December 31st. There's football

happening. I'm sort of in that mindset. I've been traveling and not been down super in, but it was time to do a podcast.

We took last week off.

And you and I'm not talking about the Matt Kemp trade yet.

So I want to start there, man, just because I know Eric and I talked about it in podcast

form, but I wanted want to allow you to talk about it here in this podcast form. Yeah, I certainly think it's one of those rare trades that really benefit both teams.

We all knew going into the offseason, that getting rid of Kemp, you know, I would argue was

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