Episode 96, Pride and Anger (Part III - Further Analysis and Discussion)
The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast
Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, and Rose de Castellane
4.8 • 612 Ratings
🗓️ 9 May 2021
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
Introduction
If I told you I was a proud and angry person, what would you think of me? Would you conjure up the image of an entitled, arrogant aggressor? The devil's turn from God was born of pride after all. What if you thought of a person with standards, a person with integrity who wants the best for themselves and others? Would that be a fair assumption?
What I'm asking is: are pride and anger virtues or vices? In the right light, emotions seem to lead to a better life… or perhaps they just create that impression until we realise we've become something we'd rather not admit. These two emotions govern our self-worth, they shape our relationships with others, and they determine how we bring about a better world. In short, how we think about these two emotions matters and it's imperative that we understand their nature.
Contents
Part I. Pride
Part II. Anger
Part III. Further Analysis and Discussion
Links
Agnes Collard, On Anger. (Book)
Martha C. Nussbaum, Anger and Forgiveness: Resentment, Generosity, Justice. (Book)
Melissa M. Shew and Kimberly K. Garchar, Philosophy for Girls: An Invitation to the Life of Thought. (Book)
Julia Driver, Modesty and Ignorance. (Paper)
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan Pan |
| 0:07.0 | Scicast |
| 0:08.0 | Part 3. Further analyses and discussion. |
| 0:27.7 | I'm really proud of what we've done. We put the best ever show together and we had lots of fun. |
| 0:36.0 | There's nothing in this world better described as great. |
| 0:40.3 | And the best part about it is I did it with my mates. Not in that way. |
| 0:45.3 | Now something I really enjoyed during the research was Collard's definition, |
| 0:50.3 | or Nussbaum's and the other philosophers we looked at what they say the concept of anger is. |
| 0:56.5 | And I thought that made me reflect a lot on the appropriateness or the nature of anger in our own |
| 1:01.9 | lives when it's appropriate and just how negative the toxicity or the viciousness of anger can be |
| 1:07.9 | and how it can consume us, the negative side of anger, that we should avoid, |
| 1:12.0 | and how so many of these philosophers say we should avoid holding onto it so it doesn't destroy us. |
| 1:17.5 | And here's a really, really powerful quote from Carl Ard on that, that I didn't want to finish |
| 1:20.8 | the series without giving. This explains the uncanny intimacy of anger. Though you can't stand to be |
| 1:26.2 | near me, it is also true that no one |
| 1:28.4 | could be closer to you than me. I have infiltrated the patterns of your thought. I have my fingers |
| 1:33.8 | on your heartstrings. I have even been put in charge of your sense perception. You see traces |
| 1:38.7 | of me everywhere you look. You complain about me to anyone who will listen. And when no one will |
| 1:43.8 | listen, you shout at a mental |
| 1:45.6 | effigy of me. I've colonized your fantasy life. I thought that was so powerful and so spot on, |
| 1:52.1 | that when we feel we've been wronged and someone's given us this injustice, inflicted upon us, |
| 1:56.7 | and taken away or disregarded our autonomy, We want to talk to everyone about it. |
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