Hey there. Welcome on back to King of the Ride podcast, episode number 96.

Now look, I don't know if my memory is bad, which it just may well be, or if the freshest conversations are the most lively, the most exciting in my mind.

But today's conversation with Carl Decker is one for the ages. I know it could have gone for another three hours.

Maybe three hours as long. Maybe three hours over the course of three different conversations.

Anyway, on the eve of Rebecca's private Idaho, he and I caught up to talk shop in seemingly every

capacity. Beginning with his dad is a pursuit specialist with the Oregon police, to his lifelong

tinkering with cars and car racing. We talk about Carl's 20-year professional cycling career,

let alone the years he spent racing prior to that.

The time he was the best runner for his age group in the entire country?

We talk about where gravel is now and where the heck it is going.

Carl is something of an oracle.

He has seen some things in the sport and his predictions are probably far more accurate than most.

This one I know is one you're going to enjoy. Stay tuned.

I would like to thank Athletic Greens for supporting this episode.

In particular, their daily pouch, AG1, is something that I started taking every day without fail for the past two months since

it first landed in my mailbox because, quite frankly, I wanted to simplify my life.

No more spending loads of money on vitamin pills every single month.

No more wondering where I'm going to get the macronutrients, the probiotics, the adaptogens

that I rely on in my daily

diet.

No more worrying about cross-contamination in this, call it contemporary world of funky pseudo-ingredients

found in the nutrition aisle.

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