Episode 96: Ann Levine, big news from LSAC

Thinking LSAT

Nathan Fox and Ben Olson

Education

4.8 • 868 Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2017

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Summary

Ann Levine joins the top of the show to discuss the big news of the day, including:

00:01:20 – LSAC eliminates the “3 times in 2 years” rule

00:03:20 – What’s it going to look like when applicants take the LSAT 7 times?

00:08:33 – “People get these goal scores in their head that sound pretty”

00:14:49 – Harvard Law School junior referral program

00:16:59 – It’s still important to take the LSAT over the GRE, even though Northwestern may begin looking at GRE scores

00:25:26 – The new Above the Law law school rankings, and why they’re better than US News

After Ann says goodbye, we turn to listener mail and other assorted goodies like:

00:33:00 – MJ delights us by explaining how she was able to negotiate for a stipend in addition to her full ride

00:37:50 – Nate talks about Southwest Airlines the impossibility of asking for booze during a tarmac delay

00:42:48 – Why do some applicants get full rides?

00:44:16 – Norm, with perfect scores on his last few practice tests, offers us $1 per point correct

00:48:06 – Justin asks about Principle questions, which basically don’t exist

01:09:26 – We dissect a difficult question stem, and talk about Sufficient vs Necessary Assumption questions

01:18:13 – Annabelle asks whether a gap in her resume will be problematic when applying to law school? (No.)

01:23:20 – “As long as” – does this introduce the sufficient or necessary condition?

01:27:00 – The 160s is actually quite solid—folks shouldn’t get caught up with perfectionist tendencies when their current abilities are well above average

01:30:46 – Are older LSAT tests easier, particularly in reading comp, compared to the new ones?

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to episode 96 of the Thinking El-Sat podcast in Los Angeles. I'm Nathan Fox in Washington DC. I have Ben Olson
0:18.3	Ben how's it going? Going great. Awesome we're super excited to have with us in Santa Barbara, I hope, and Levine.
0:26.7	Anne, you got back from Dubai, okay?
0:28.2	I'm back. Yeah, it was a great little vacation. I have to sneak that in before June
0:32.5	also comes around you know how it goes sure that's amazing 15 years of
0:37.2	marriage congratulations thank you you got to celebrate got to celebrate
0:41.0	everything in life you know know? Sure, yeah, yes you do.
0:44.0	Today we are going to talk to Anne,
0:48.0	and we were joking before we started recording.
0:50.0	Anne goes on vacation and then all hell breaks loose with all sorts of new news.
0:56.0	So I actually think that Elsack follows my Facebook feed
1:00.0	and just knows, okay, Anne's going to be in a plane let's release
1:03.0	Elsat scores now or and is going to be in Maldives in the middle of nowhere and so
1:08.2	let's decide you can take the Elsat as many times as you want.
1:11.6	We're all paranoid, Ben and I are paranoid about the
1:14.7	L-SAC too. That's no problem. Well where do you want to start? I think people
1:21.1	are maybe most interested in the
1:23.0	ELSAC announcing that they have eliminated the three times in two years rule so
1:29.1	what pretty big deal yeah pretty big deal so I have some thoughts this. I think for smart applicants this is a
1:34.9	wonderful thing and for some applicants this is a horrible thing and so I want to
1:40.4	talk about that a little bit. So instead of being restricted to only taking the Alsat three times in a two year
1:45.9	period now they're saying no you can take the Alsat however many times you can fit in
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