Oh my goodness, it's only preseason, but I'm high billed fuck, Jimmy J, fuck it, get the fuck it's, oh my goodness, get me the hot sauce, billed fuck, get me the hot sauce, what are you doing, drag it, get you there, get the memo, dare it both, can't go upstairs, bro, right?

It gave me the hot sauce, we did a quick change in the break as you see us we're in different clothes if you're watching on YouTube, and now we want to welcome a very special guest, a good friend of ours, and a loyal follower of the

opportunity, he is now part of the on time agency started by a Vermont sessions, and he's going to be using some very exciting stuff there, we'll talk about that in a minute, Sean, but first I want to ask you about your time with the bulls, you come into that organization, they had guys long time in place in the media relations department where you started out, what was that like for you initially trying to trying to get the lay of the land, Jeff gets coffee for Stacey and stuff, or what were your responsibilities? No, I used to have to get popcorn hot dogs,

Stacey and Neil, during half time. Is that right? Yep, you know, you weren't supposed to tell everybody, you know, because you big time now, you don't have to do that. Stacey was great, man, Stacey was great, Tim Halem who hired me back in 2008 in the PR department, gave me the opportunity, I love working for the bulls, I love working, I worked in the PR department of course for seven years, work with Matt Yob, who was phenomenal.

And then I transferred over to the basketball office department in 2015, and no, I mean, it was great, I mean Stacey used to go on road trips and Stacey would always take me to dinner, take me to count where he really is, Mark, Mark, this man is married, Mark.

Stacey would, I mean, to be honest with you early on in my career with the bulls, I mean, Stacey was like my big brother, like when we used to go to Oklahoma City, I would always go hand with, it was him, and then his whole crew from childhood, from college, LA, we go to Roscos with some of his best friends, like I mean, Stacey would, Stacey was again, like he was my big brother.

So, I'll tell you what, your checks in the mail, America, I'm gonna tell you, this guy, he's being modest, this guy, when he first came in, he was, you know, a young kid, bright eyes, just energetic, and he's leaving an old man, I'm just playing, but he came in, we gravitated very quickly, and I remember being on the road trips, and we'd be out, and I'd be watching him, and we'd stay in these five star hotels, and very expensive, you know, room service, everything's very expensive.

And, you know, Sean was, you know, counting pennies, you know, he's, he's counting pennies like that.

You didn't get to Purdue, man.

No, no, no, it's sound be like, okay, if I spend 20 dollars a year, I'll show you how to go to McDonald's.

Yeah, so I'm like, I'm like, hey, man, come on, what are you doing?

What are you doing? Let's go eat, let's go eat.

So, I made a point to take him out every single time that we were on the road, so he didn't have to spend his little money.

Yeah.

Because I know how hard it was for him, because he was on the bottom of the totem pole at the time.

So, and he's worked himself up.

This is one of the hardest working guys I've ever been around.

I mean, I've seen him go from, you know, being the last guy on the totem pole.

Okay, we got some people in the background just dropping pins and things around.

Throw points.

Throw points coming.

Throw points coming.

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