Welcome everybody to Crystal Kyland friends. Today we're going to be talking to Luke Savage

who wrote a phenomenal book on centrism. He's a Jacobin writer, a very thoughtful guy.

So really looking forward to that. That should be fun. But before we get to that, Crystal,

I have some very, very big news. What's that? I've done it. I've brought peace to Russia

and Ukraine. Way to go, baby. So I drafted a plan and Vlad, it's over, man. Relax and sit

back. It's a lensky. It's all good. I figured it out. I figured it out. So okay, in all seriousness,

though. Yeah, I did. You sent me an article the other day and it was a terrifying article.

It was like, this is the trajectory that we're on in Russia and Ukraine. And they walk through

it. It's very calm. It's a very sober analysis. We're on the rocks by Jeremy Shapiro. And it's

the headline is quite provocative. It's, we're on the path to nuclear war.

Correct. And so I read the article and by the end of it, I was like, that seems plausible.

Like the way he laid it all out, you know, this will happen. This happens. This happens.

This happens. And the next thing you know, boom, there we are. And so that shook me.

I mean, I already knew subconsciously and instinctually, like, yeah, that's kind of where we're

heading. But to have it laid out in a logical sense, full new ball game. Yeah. So after I read

that, I sat there and I'm like, what the fuck can be done? Like what can be done? And I thought

about it long and hard went through a whole bunch of different. What if we did this, this,

this, this, this. And I settled on what I think is, you know, the least bad of all bad

options to get peace in Russia and Ukraine. So the reason I want to do this with you here

is because you can poke holes in what I'm saying, say, hey, I don't think that makes

sense for that. It doesn't make sense or whatever. And I can get a sense of where I'm at.

But I am a massive, massacast because everybody's going to fucking name me for this, right?

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