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Gender Reveal

Episode 94: Checking in with Kirby Conrod

Gender Reveal

Tuck Woodstock

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.71.3K Ratings

🗓️ 7 June 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Tuck catches up with nonbinary linguist Kirby Conrod (they/them). Topics include: 

  • Are pronoun-go-arounds for cis people?
  • Gender as a local social relationship 
  • Neurodivergent life hacks 
  • Writing a dissertation about they/them pronouns
  • Plus: wizard gender! 

This Week in Gender: NYC Pride has banned GOAL from marching in the parade for the next four years.

Find Kirby's work on their website (kirbyconrod.com), their blog (kconrod.medium.com), and their twitter (@kirbyconrod).

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Gender Reveal, a podcast where we hopefully get a little bit closer to understanding

0:20.4

what the hell gender is.

0:22.8

I'm your host and resident gender detective, Tech Woodstock.

0:30.0

Hey everyone, I hope you've all been hanging in there.

0:36.8

Happy Pride and welcome to Gender Reveal Season 7.

0:40.6

I am so glad to be back and I have a bunch of news to share with you all, so let's get

0:45.0

started.

0:46.0

If this is your first Gender Reveal episode, welcome, thanks for being here.

0:50.3

If you are not new here, you may have heard me say that this season of the podcast is

0:54.4

going to be a little bit weird.

0:56.9

Part of that is that we have something special and deeply chaotic planned for our 100th

1:01.5

episode, which is coming right up, but between now and then we will be checking back with

1:06.0

a few guests from the early days of Gender Reveal to see what they've been up to in the

1:10.5

past three and a half years that cannot possibly be right.

1:16.2

Today, we are catching up with Kirby Conrad, who is now Dr. Kirby Conrad, PhD.

1:22.6

Kirby first appeared in episode 13 of Gender Reveal and I still to this day recommend their

1:27.5

episode all of the time to cis people who are struggling with singular they and to trans

1:32.9

people who are trying to make cis people stop misgendering them.

1:36.3

Kirby is so smart and so funny and I'm really excited for you to hear today's conversation.

1:41.3

In this episode, we talk about gender as a regional social relationship, the pros and

1:46.6

cons of pronoun sharing and pronoun go around.

1:50.0

The best thing you can do is just make the opportunity without putting other people on the spot.

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