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I want to welcome everyone back to the Pete Caniano show.

Thomas, we got a new series that you wanted to start here. You mentioned it and I was like, we need to jump all over it, especially since you mentioned the Oppenheimer movie that's out and that this would be this would be a good

supplement or side by side to it so tell everybody a little bit about what you're what you're thinking.

I want to discuss the German atomic bomb.

Though like everything about it like if such a program existed, you know, conceptually what is, you know, what was the catalyst for it, you know, what was the state of science at the time.

And also, in kind of more apical terms,

you know, I want to talk about nuclear weapons generally

or atomic weapons in that era.

You know, people have a misunderstanding about about the bomb and about nuclear weapons or like any other weapons, they, people like Thomas Schilling and like Hermann

Khan, they made the point that nuclear weapons or like any other weapons, they're just far, far more muscle-bound.

The ability to impose, you know, devastating attrition and an incident system, you know, marks them apart.

As does, you know, very like strategic variables relating to their

destructive power, it creates peculiar paradigms.

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