Hi, he's Dave Shumka.

And he's Graham Clark.

And together we host.

Stop podcasting yourself.

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Hello, everybody. And welcome to episode 923 of Stop Podcasts.

My name's Grave Clark.

And with me, as always, is a man who did the most fun gag opening the door since, you know, more fun than Kramer ever did.

Mr. Dave Schumka.

Yeah, was it a Kramer-style gag? You know what it was? Okay, so I saw you two sitting at the coffee shop up the street. One coffee, two straws. One coffee, two. Pop Tate's coffee shop. And there, so I, this was a half an hour before the show was going to begin. And I thought, oh, these two are going to be coming to the, these guys are showing up at the same time. Yeah. And we chatted. So you knew that I knew that we were all going to meet up. Yeah. And so I thought it would be fun to seem really unprepared. So I put on a house coat and I put a towel around my head. I said, when you came to the door, I said, is that today?

My other thing I was thinking of maybe doing with that outfit was putting my face into cake and saying, hello.

I liked that in that movie he just had a cake.

He had access to a full cake that just happened to be.

Also, like, pretty convenient it was a vanilla cake.

Billy Crystal would have maybe done chocolate.

Our guest today, returning guests to the podcast, one of our all-time favorite guests.

You can see her at Union Hall,

December 12th in New York, New York. It's Maddie Kelly. Hello. Hey, everyone. Hey, how are you?

Oh, Dave, the delight, the delight that was caused by the towel on the head. Thanks. Do you,

are you a towel? Do you walk around like that after a shower? No, because I don't, I don't touch, I don't dare touch my hair with a towel. Oh, what's your post-shower ritual? Well, everybody online in the curl community is like, they just tell you. R slash curls. Yeah. I don't even wear my hair curly anymore, but I still, I'm religious about this. where it's like, don't you dare ever touch your, because it makes your, the little, every hair is smooth, okay? But then it gets roughed up. It gets roughed up by the fiber of a towel. If you need to, you can dry your hair with a t-shirt, but I don't even recommend that. So if you're drip, drip, drip, dripping, you just let drip, drip, drip? I'm drip, drip, drip, dripping. I'm putting in my products, I'm brushing my hair. I'm putting in some more products.

What are we doing V-O-5 hot oil? Are we doing John Frida's Frizzies? Guys, I wish the podcast had always been like this. I would love to tell you guys my hair routine. Well, let's get to know us. Get to know us. Tell us more. Okay, so I get a leave-in conditioner. But you're actually washing. I'm putting in dry shampoo. You're washing your hair. I do that quite often. I'm addicted to that. How many times a week do you wash here? Twice? Twice. How about you? Three.

I do it every day.

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