Episode 910: The Whistleblowers vs. The Big Guy

Newt's World

Gingrich 360

News, Politics

4.7 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 November 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Newt talks with IRS special agents Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler about their new book, “The Whistleblowers vs. The Big Guy: Two Special Agents, the Biden Crime Family, and a Corrupt Bureaucracy.” They describe the testimony they gave before Congress about political interference and obstruction in the Hunter Biden criminal case, revealing how the IRS, FBI, and DOJ failed to act independently. Despite overwhelming evidence, they faced retaliation and isolation for exposing corruption. Their investigation led to Hunter Biden's federal conviction, but President Joe Biden later pardoned his son and issued blanket pardons to other family members. Shapley and Ziegler's experiences are detailed in their new book, profits of which will support future whistleblowers. They emphasize the importance of treating all taxpayers equally and ensuring no preferential treatment in investigations. Their actions highlight the potential for citizens to influence government and address corruption, embodying the American tradition of truth and justice.

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0:00.0	This is an I-Heart podcast.
0:02.0	Guaranteed Human
0:04.0	On this episode of News World,
0:11.0	Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler made headlines
0:14.0	when they testified before Congress,
0:17.0	revealing political interference,
0:19.0	bureaucratic stonewalling, and outright obstruction in the
0:23.1	Hunter Biden criminal case. Despite overwhelming evidence, they watched as the system bent to protect
0:30.7	the powerful, with the IRS, FBI, and DOJ failing to act as independent institutions. Your investigation ultimately led to
0:41.0	Hunter Biden's federal conviction. But in a stunning last-minute move, President Joe Biden
0:46.4	pardoned his son, then went even further issuing blanket pardons to other family members
0:52.4	before leaving office.
0:56.8	But this isn't just about Hunter Biden.
1:02.6	It's about two public disturbance who risked everything to expose corruption.
1:07.6	Facing retaliation, isolation, and intense public scrutiny,
1:13.1	Chapley and Ziegler take us inside the high-paced battle between truth and power. Here to discuss their new book, The Whistleblowers versus the Big God. I'm really
1:20.5	pleased to welcome my guest, Gary Shappley and Joseph Ziegler.
1:34.9	Music and Joseph Ligler. You're on Joe, welcome and thank you for joining me on Newsworld.
1:38.3	Thank you, sir.
1:39.1	Great to be here.
1:39.8	Great to meet you.
1:41.1	Yeah, thank you so much for having us.
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