Welcome to the broad experience, the show about women, the workplace, and success. I'm Ashley Miltight.

This time we look at two influential women, Cheryl Sandberg.

It's kind of tell women who are bumping up against these intractable sort of structural and cultural problems that it's kind of all about you is just extremely

frustrating in the end because it's not just about you. And Anne-Marie Slaughter. How can we affect

change to make it so that everybody can have this blend of care and competition so that the

world is more integrated.

Coming up, will change come through individual efforts, or is it more about the system?

Back in July, I released a show called Selling Empowerment.

It was all about the cult of the women's conference.

We asked whether these conferences really had any positive effect for women long-term or if they were just about having a bit of fun on the day.

During my interviews for that show, two women's names kept coming up. Cheryl Sandberg

and Anne-Marie Slaughter. You're probably familiar with them. Sandberg, of course, became famous,

or more famous than she was at Facebook after publishing her book, Lean In, in 2013. It's a call to

arms for women to push themselves forward at work.

Anne-Marie Slaughter is a former US State Department official who wrote an article for the Atlantic

several years ago called Why Women Still Can't Have It All. Last year she published a book that

grew out of that article. It's called Unfinished Business, Women, Men, Work, Family.

It's hard to exist in this world of women and work without hearing these women's names bandied about all the time.

And Sandberg in particular evoke strong feelings, even among people who haven't read her book.

Many women resent a woman of Sandberg's background and wealth, apparently telling them how to tackle

their work lives.

What I got from Lean In was take some of it, leave the rest.

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