Episode 90
Sword and Scale
Incongruity
4 • 61.1K Ratings
🗓️ 21 May 2017
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
When Pulitzer Prize-nominated journalist Claudia Rowe, author of The Spider and The Fly, decided to write to a serial killer, she wasn't prepared for how it would change her life. In her quest to understand the nature of cruelty, she ended up discovering much more about herself. Kendall Francois murdered at least eight women and hid the rotting corpses in the home that he shared with his mother, father, and younger sister. A large foreboding figure who emanated a pungent odor, he demands that Rowe offers personal details of her life in exchange for the answers she is seeking. She does not comply with his wishes, which leads the reader to wonder "Who really is the spider and who really is the fly?"
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| 0:00.0 | Sort and scale contains adult themes and violence and is not intended for all audiences |
| 0:06.1 | listener discretion is advised |
| 0:08.3 | Surely there were officers who spoke to me about the smell in the home that was so bad that they couldn't get it off their skin |
| 0:21.9 | Welcome to Sort and Scale season 4 episode 90 a show that reveals that the worst monsters are real |
| 0:51.9 | In this episode we're gonna delve into 19th century English poetry |
| 1:10.8 | Kidding not kidding actually you'll see what I mean in just a minute we are joined by Pulitzer Prize nominated author and journalist Claudio Roe |
| 1:19.6 | to talk about her new book which reads like poetry it's called The Spider and the Fly it's a story about finding yourself and delving into what makes you human and of course murder |
| 1:31.1 | I think you're gonna like it but before we get to that I want to remind you that our new show Sort and Scale rewind hosted by Stephanie Wilder Taylor and Lynette Corolla will be launching very soon |
| 1:41.4 | We don't have a fixed date yet, but it will almost certainly be in early June |
| 1:45.8 | If you want to know the second it's available then join our Facebook Twitter and Insta pages just search for Sort and Scale rewind or SS rewind |
| 1:58.7 | This is Claudia I'm a journalist and author of The Spider and the Fly a reporter a serial killer and the meaning of murder and I'm assuming this is also |
| 2:09.3 | reference to the poem from the 1800s |
| 2:12.9 | Yeah, it is and the poem is about flattery the poem is about the spider flattering the the ditzy fly and you know that flattery is eventually gonna get you killed and you know |
| 2:25.6 | Who flattered whom in the in the relationship between Kendall Francois and myself there was some surely mutual manipulation going on |
| 2:33.4 | Will you walk into my parlor said the spider to the fly |
| 2:44.2 | Tissed the prettiest little parlor that ever you did spy the way into my parlor is up a winding stair |
| 2:51.9 | And I have many pretty things to show you when you were there |
| 2:55.9 | Oh, no, no said the little fly to ask me in vain |
| 3:00.8 | For who goes up your winding stair can never come down again |
| 3:05.8 | I'm sure you must be weary dear with soaring up so high |
| 3:10.4 | Will you rest upon my little bed said the spider to the fly |
| 3:14.6 | There are pretty curtains drawn around the sheets are fine and thin and if you like to rest a while I'll snugly tuck you in |
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