Hi friends, welcome to another episode of That Sounds Fun.

I'm your host Annie F. Down.

So glad to be here with you today.

I hope you're having a great day.

The music in the background is our good buddy Mr. Dave Barnes.

Make sure you grab his new album, any of the albums really, and come and join us at the

Ryman on August 3rd.

There are just like barely tickets left, but if you can get to Nashville, come on.

Hey, today on the show is someone that I just love and respect so, so much.

Someone that Jeremy Courtney is a friend of mine that I have watched lead and love people

really well and serve in what would be considered some really hard places.

And he just teaches me all the time.

He teaches me all the time in friendship and how he leads preemptive love about what

it looks to really love well.

And so I would have been dying to have him on the show.

And so we finally worked it out.

We finally got it scheduled.

So today we have Jeremy Courtney from preemptive love.

And I think you're just going to really enjoy this conversation.

There's a couple of places where there's a little bit of delay that you may hear, but

to be fair, he's in Syria, right?

So we do the best we can to keep it tight, but there are a couple of spots where, you know,

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