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It's Complicated

Episode 90 | Conservative influencers in DoJ’s Russian propaganda indictment: Victims or Accomplices?

It's Complicated

Renato Mariotti

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

In this all-new episode, national security law professor Asha Rangappa and former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti delve into the murky waters of Russian disinformation campaigns. Discussing last week’s indictment of two Russian nationals for a malign influence operation in the U.S. by the Department of Justice, you'll hear how well-known commentators like Tim Pool, Benny Johnson, Laura Southern, and Dave Rubin were ensnared with windfall payments from Russia’s government. Subscribe to our Patreon here, where paid members will get access to exclusive portions of this show. patreon.com/reallyamericanmedia The damning DoJ indictment alleges at least two Russian nationals conducted a clandestine operation in the US that sought to sway public opinion in the lead up to the election by funding BlazeTV content creator Lauren Chen’s startup, Tenet Media. While one of the Putin government’s scheme targeted conservative American influencers, another indictment for a scheme called the Doppelgänger case was released, where prosecutors indicted a ring that created fake news websites. Both pushed pro-Russian narratives mixed with minsinformation to disrupt American politics and cause social division. Our hosts break down the details and implications of the shocking foreign disinformation campaign, and analyze responses by different presidential administrations to combat these types of operations. We’ll walk through the complexities of the case, talk about the role of targeted right-wing influencers in the operation, and explain how their willful negligence greatly undermined our democracy. You’ll also get to hear how the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) works, and get an expert analysis of the strategic shift in the federal response to these types of operations since the 2016 election. Asha and Renato also give us an update on Hunter Biden’s recent legal troubles and share some hilarious personal anecdotes about maintaining public appearances. This episode of It's Complicated is a must-listen. Stay tuned and join us next week for more expert analysis and deep dives into the world of legal and political intrigue. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

So, Asha, were the right-wing influencers who are paid by the Russian government victims?

0:08.0

Eh, it's complicated. I'm a I'm Asha Rangappa. I teach national security law at Yale University. I'm a former FBI special agent and I'm a legal contributor for ABC News.

0:25.4

And I'm Renat Tamariati.

0:27.1

I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer, and a legal analyst.

0:32.3

And we're here to help you understand topics that can't be boiled down into a

0:36.2

sound bite or a piece.

0:39.2

So we had some pretty juicy news I guess a couple of days ago when the Justice

0:50.7

Department announced that it had indicted to Russian nationals for a malign influence

1:01.8

operation that they were conducting in the United States, which involved

1:08.9

domestic influencers, and then separately seized a number of website domains that were impersonating legitimate news outlets.

1:20.0

Yeah, I thought it was really interesting,

1:23.4

Asha.

1:24.0

It sounded like a hypothetical from like a course

1:26.5

you might teach, right, about disinformation.

1:30.6

Yeah, actually, for anyone interested in this topic, my sub-stack has an online course,

1:39.2

it's an online version of the course I teach at Yale about Russian active measures and influence operations and we go through all of this from the Cold

1:47.8

War to the present and how they've adapted.

1:51.8

And I think one thing that was interesting to me is the different

1:57.1

approach by the by the feds this time. In other words they learned their lesson.

2:02.6

In 2016, the Obama administration,

2:05.8

or the Obama Justice Department,

2:07.9

made a decision not to interfere

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