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It's Complicated

Episode 89 | Here's why the new Jack Smith indictment is TERRIBLE for Trump

It's Complicated

Renato Mariotti

News, News Commentary, Politics

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2024

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Special Counsel Jack Smith just filed a superseding indictment against former President Donald Trump in the wake of the Supreme Court's historic presidential immunity ruling earlier this summer. In today's all-new episode our hosts Renato Mariotti and Asha Rangappa give their expert analysis of Trump’s brand new indictment. Before diving in, make sure to subscribe to our Patreon for exclusive access to deeper insights and behind-the-scenes content: patreon.com/reallyamericanmedia. You’ll learn why Special Counsel Jack Smith needed to convene a new grand jury for this week's new indictment. We'll also discuss how the superseding indictment seeks to outmaneuver the Supreme Court’s controversial decision on presidential immunity. Lastly, our hosts will project the potential outcomes of the case, including delays and why it's likely swift appeals will result from any forthcoming decision. Renato elaborates on the gamble of Jack Smith, and explains how the new filing cleans up old charges and makes prosecution more effective. Asha highlights the complex role of the Supreme Court’s presidential immunity decision on the case and provides an in-depth analysis of the distinction between legislative and executive acts. And our hosts also provide a new update on the appeal of Judge Cannon's dismissal of the Mar-a-Lago indictment, discussing how the focus on statutory interpretations and historical context support special counsel appointments. Tune in next week as we continue to unpack all of the ongoing political legal drama. Stay informed, stay engaged, and be part of the conversation about the future of American justice, right here on It’s Complicated. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

So Renato, will Trump face all the charges in the superseding indictment?

0:06.0

It's complicated.

0:09.0

I'm Renato Mariati. I'm a former federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer, and a legal analyst.

0:20.0

And I'm Asherangappa. I teach national security law at Yale University. I'm a former FBI special agent and I'm a legal contributor for ABC News.

0:29.0

And we're here to help you understand topics that can't be boiled down into a sound bite or a tweet.

0:35.0

So yay, we have some news on the Trump cases.

0:42.0

It's been a while, right right? Yeah it was kind of a slow few weeks and we were

0:48.0

kind of like what do we talk about? I mean there's a lot to talk about but we know that our

0:52.1

listeners are most interested in in

0:56.2

these particular cases and this week we have a ton. Yes pancake agrees he just

1:01.2

does agree.

1:02.8

He just paid us a visit.

1:04.5

Yeah, so look, there is definitely

1:06.9

some big news this week.

1:08.1

And let's just start with what I think is the most important thing.

1:11.7

There's now a superseding indictment,

1:13.4

which helps us understand why Jack Smith needed more time.

1:18.2

He was impaneling another grand jury,

1:21.2

getting the evidence before that grand jury so that this way they could return

1:26.2

the superseding indictment. And just for our listeners benefit, the superseding indictment is essentially an indictment that will replace a prior indictment.

1:36.0

It's often used by prosecutors to add additional charges.

1:40.0

Let's say they continue their investigation, they discover evidence of another crime, they want to add it.

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