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The Catch and Kill Podcast with Ronan Farrow

Episode 9: The President

The Catch and Kill Podcast with Ronan Farrow

Pineapple Street Studios

News, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.8 • 10.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2020

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

In our final episode, we go inside the case that ultimately brought Donald Trump’s alliance with the National Enquirer tumbling down and landed one Trump associate behind bars. It’s the story of an historic scheme to swing a presidential race—one that starts at the Playboy Mansion and ends with a master list of Trump dirt, a safe full of secrets, and a shredding party at the Enquirer’s headquarters before the election. But it’s also a personal story, about a schoolteacher from the Midwest who found herself drawn into an underworld where porn, tabloids, and a black market for political information all intersect—and who came face to face with stark lessons about how powerful people can distort the truth, and what it takes to hold them accountable. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, like other episodes in this series, this one includes some descriptions of sexual

0:05.8

and domestic violence.

0:07.6

It also has some strong language and discussions of consensual sex.

0:12.0

Please take care while you're listening.

0:13.8

I don't know why I slept with them Ronin, like, I don't know, I don't know what I was thinking.

0:21.3

It was 2006.

0:22.8

Karen McDougal, a former Playboy playmate of the year, had said yes to a dinner invitation

0:28.0

from a businessman and reality TV star named Donald Trump.

0:32.5

So our first dinner was at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

0:36.2

I was under the assumption that we were having dinner, which means a restaurant.

0:41.6

And then I found out we were having dinner there in his little dining area, if you will,

0:48.7

of his bungalow.

0:50.5

It was kind of a shocker for me, and now I wouldn't do it.

0:53.6

Now I'd be like, uh-uh, get me out of here now.

0:56.8

You'll tell him to meet me in the restaurant.

0:58.9

Karen Newtrum had ties to the modeling world.

1:01.4

She'd hoped the conversation might open up career opportunities.

1:04.3

You're like, okay, I'm here.

1:06.3

Just have the dinner and get it over with and get some business out of this and go home.

1:13.6

We both had steak.

1:14.6

Um, I believe he had steak in potatoes, which was a thing that he would always order.

1:19.6

Um, I can't remember if there was dessert or not.

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