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I know. You always eat a mo full of chips right before the next segment where you have to talk. Hello and

welcome to Which Please, a fortnightly podcast about the Harry Potter world.

I'm Marcel Kossman, and I Hannah McGregor at long last bringing you part one of our

discussion of the fifth book in the Harry Potter series Harry Potter and the

order of the Phoenix. and because you've been so patient waiting for us to start this discussion we promise

that it will be action-packed with righteous

feminist anger and sound effects.

All the sound effects.

But before we can burn the world to the ground, we first need to sort it into tidy

piles of kindling in the sorting chat.

We have a couple of things to talk about in the segment and the first and most important is obviously

the revelation that the thing that puts out lights is still called a put-outer.

Marcel, what do you have to say?

I'm totally baffled by this because I know that it's called

a deluminator, but I don't know when they start calling it a deluminator. If it's not yet, what if they never do and what if I've just completely rewritten history?

What if that's what's happened? What if it's like a Berenstein-Bears-esque kind of parallel universe where I'm so sure that it's called a

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