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Newt's World

Episode 894: How the Jihadists Think and How to Defeat Them

Newt's World

Gingrich 360

News, Politics

4.76.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Newt talks with former Army Captain Jesse Petrilla, about his new book, “If It Takes a Thousand Years: From Al-Qaeda to Hamas, How the Jihadists Think and How to Defeat Them.” They discuss the mindset and long-term strategies of jihadist groups, emphasizing their generational approach to conflict. Petrilla shares insights from his experiences in Afghanistan, where he facilitated interrogations of Taliban and Al-Qaeda members, and highlights the cultural and ideological differences between the West and jihadist groups. Petrilla stresses the importance of understanding these differences to effectively counter the jihadist threat. Their discussion also touches on the challenges of immigration and assimilation, the influence of tribalism in the Islamic world, and the potential dangers posed by a lack of awareness and education about these issues in the West.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:08.7

On this episode of News World, during an interrogation in Afghanistan, when asked how long the

0:15.0

jihadist intended to fight, a Taliban commander uttered the words, If it takes a thousand years.

0:22.1

This chilling statement illustrates both how terrorists at this level operate

0:25.8

and the generational approach they take when it comes to bringing destruction to the world.

0:31.4

The West is facing a determined enemy with a fundamentally different worldview.

0:36.4

In his new book,

0:41.3

if it takes a thousand years from al-Qaeda to Hamas,

0:44.2

how the jihadists think and how to defeat them,

0:47.0

former army captain Jesse Petrilla provides unique insight into the jihadist mind,

0:51.0

featuring interviews with Taliban and al-Qaeda members

0:53.9

just after their capture,

0:55.9

interviews with international journalists and professors, warnings from European politicians,

1:00.7

as well as experiences from his travels throughout this London world.

1:05.8

I am really pleased to welcome my guest, former Army Captain Jesse Petrilla.

1:10.7

He served as a civilian advisor to the U.S. Department of State and was a liaison officer

1:15.6

in the Army to the Afghan secret police facilitating the interrogations of over 400 captured Taliban

1:22.9

and al-Qaeda members.

1:40.6

Thank you. and al-Qaeda members. Jesse, welcome, and thank you for joining me on a new tour.

1:44.4

Thanks for having me, Mr. Speaker.

1:46.4

Let's start with your own career.

1:48.4

Talk about when you joined the Army and worked your way up to captain.

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