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I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekiniano show. I am happy to have Dr. Paul Godfrey

with me today. How are you doing Dr Godfrey?

Okay, fine. Great. Well, the reason I asked you to come on today is because a new release called a

paleo-conservative anthology came on my radar when you're, uh, when your protege, CJA. and

I started reading it came on my radar when your, uh, when your protege, CJ Engel told me about it and sent me a copy.

And I started reading it and immediately your introduction just sucked me in because there were so many names in there that I recognize and as as a former

Libertarian I mean you know Rothbard and Lou Rockwell's name just pulled me right in, but let's start with this.

I'm sure a lot of people know this story, but a lot don't. How did helio conservatism even become a thing?

Yeah, that's a good question and you know it's one that I tried to address in the

introduction that sucked you in. Yeah, the in the pillioceros are not what they are generally criticized for being

I think was Rich Lowry who maintained that these were not the the important

conservatives before the 1980s in the neo-conservative ascendancy to which my

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