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Regenerative Agriculture Podcast

Episode 88: The Relationship Between Fungi, Endophytes, and Native Soil Biology with Dr. Mary Lucero

Regenerative Agriculture Podcast

AEA Marketing

Science, Natural Sciences, Earth Sciences

4.7548 Ratings

🗓️ 20 July 2023

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Mary Lucero has over 30 years of experience in scientific research and education in agriculture. Her research examines the microbial relationships between plants and soil health and proves that the regenerative approach offers a way forward for growers and consumers. As Co-founder and Systems Biologist at End-O-Fite Enterprises, she works with growers and biostimulant producers to optimize regenerative techniques to restore microbial ecosystems. 

Mary and her husband, David, run Jal Farms, a family-owned fruit and beef operation in Eastern New Mexico. Her farm focuses on regenerative practices to restore soil health and growing nutrient-dense foods and even has an on-farm lab for her research.

In this conversation, John and Mary discuss:

  • The importance of creating an environment for native biology to thrive

  • How fungi are great shapeshifters 

  • The Mycosome Hypothesis developed by Peter Atsatt

  • The importance and complexity of endophytes

  • Horizontal organism transfer

  • Indigenous concepts and principles    

  • Mary's experience with farm ownership 

To connect with Mary and her work and to learn more about her online classes, please visit: https://endofite.com/ 

To learn more about the Mycosome Hypothesis developed by Peter Atsat, please visit: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12730709/.

About John Kempf
John Kempf is the founder of Advancing Eco Agriculture (AEA). A top expert in biological and regenerative farming, John founded AEA in 2006 to help fellow farmers by providing the education, tools, and strategies that will have a global effect on the food supply and those who grow it.

​Through intense study and the knowledge gleaned from many industry leaders, John is building a comprehensive systems-based approach to plant nutrition – a system solidly based on the sciences of plant physiology, mineral nutrition, and soil microbiology.

Support For This Show & Helping You Grow
Since 2006, AEA has been on a mission to help growers become more resilient, efficient, and profitable with regenerative agriculture. 

AEA works directly with growers to apply its unique line of liquid mineral crop nutrition products and biological inoculants. Informed by cutting-edge plant and soil data-gathering techniques, AEA's science-based programs empower farm operations to meet the crop quality markers that matter the most. 

AEA has created real and lasting change on millions of acres with its products and data-driven services by working hand-in-hand with growers to produce healthier soil, stronger crops, and higher profits.

Beyond working on the ground with growers, AEA leads in regenerative agriculture media and education, producing and distributing the popular and highly-regarded Regenerative Agriculture Podcast, inspiring webinars, and other educational content that serve as go-to resources for growers worldwide.

To get started, contact AEA here: https://www.advancingecoag.com/contact

VIDEO: To learn more from John Kempf about regenerative agriculture, watch this conversation between John and three AEA grower partners about how regenerative agriculture is changing lives and conventional farming: https://youtu.be/n9U6GwbYPDk

 

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi friends, this is John. Welcome back to the regenerative agriculture podcast where we talk about

0:05.2

agronomic sciences and cultural management practices and all the fun stuff that are useful to know

0:09.8

to help us understand how to regenerate soil health and plant health and public health and farm

0:14.7

economics. You know, one of the pieces that I've come to really appreciate is how much

0:23.3

valuable historical knowledge has been lost or has been ignored when we look

0:31.7

back at the domain of understanding disease suppressive soils, understanding soil microbiology,

0:40.2

there's research going back all the way to the early 1900s postulating plant absorption

0:46.4

of nutrients through a process called endocytosis.

0:50.5

And there are research describing all of the potential impacts that soil biology and biology can have on plant development.

0:59.0

And for many years, a lot of that research was ignored.

1:03.0

We prioritized chemistry and looking at life through and living processes through a lens of chemistry rather than through a lens of biology.

1:18.1

And recently with the work of Dr. James White and David Johnson and Christine Jones and many,

1:23.7

Elaine Ingham, many other pioneers in this space, we've come to appreciate the critical importance of the role of biology in living systems. And fundamentally, regeneration and regenerative

1:32.4

agriculture is about understanding and facilitating and regenerating these relationships, whether there's

1:37.6

relationships between livestock on the landscape or between plants and soils, soil microbes.

1:44.0

And in our conversation today, I'm really delighted

1:48.0

to have a really a pioneering scientist

1:53.0

who helped to define and first discover some of these important relationships

1:58.0

between microbes and plants. Mary Lacerro is someone whose work I've admired from a distance for quite a few years.

2:07.6

And her work has the, to some degree, has been ignored or forgotten for lots of interesting reasons.

2:16.6

But I wanted to have this conversation to help all of

2:19.9

us remember some of the pioneering work that has been done and give honor and credit where it is due.

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