Content warning for religious trauma and religious abuse as well as familial abuse. someplace underneath. I'm going to go. Are you trying to quit smoking?

I'm trying to quit smoking.

I'm just like, so if you hear my voice that's a little strained, I think when you don't smoke for a few days,

like, my body's just like, what?

It's asking where the smoke particles are. Where's the cigarette sand back in me? Yeah.

Oh, your lungs and throat, love it. They, yeah. Yeah, it's their medicine. It's their medicine.

Welcome to some place underneath them, Nellie Jean.

I'm Amber Nelson.

We are right in the middle of this thick tail.

Thick ass.

Yeah, we're starting the whole parisocial exploitation revisited series with a very long front entry.

But there's so much to this story. And really there's such a strange connection between the way that parasycial exploitation and the LDS Church have sort of mashed themselves into each other to create a sandwich of horror.

A no-no sandwich?

A no-no sandwich?

Yeah, so there's this therapist lady who has the eyes of a devil, and she's just

been doing therapy for the LDS church, and has no one, like, questioned her.

Yeah.

And then she gets together with this other lady who like has a bunch of kids and hates her kids.

And then they do this YouTube series.

And now for the first time, their bubbles broken and people are like, what the fuck?

You are crazy?

They got arrested for aggravated child abuse.

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