You're going to do you. Oh, Welcome to the Team V-Tac podcast. I'm your host Kyle Lamb and we are at Crusader

Acres today and I am with my buddy Alan Elishewitz the famous knife maker and handmade knives no

C right isn't that the isn't that what the sign says in your shop

that's gonna follow me forever yes, welcome man. Well, thank you. Thanks for having me on here. Man, this is awesome. We, uh, I'll tell the story real quick and you can tell me when I, when I start to lie.

So, Alan and I met, we've met a couple of times,

but we actually met at the Blade Show

and we started putting together this plan like,

oh, we need to do some training or whatever.

And eventually, to kind of cut to the chase, I was doing a little forging in knife making.

I don't think Alan would quite classify it as making knives yet

but I'm learning and you came to a class at SIG Academy. We got to hang out

there quite a bit. We put together this plan that I would get together and do a little...

Actually I went to your house before that. I went to your shop and seen kind of how you do business and

it was very intrigued. The cleanest shop I've ever been into, I come home and I told Melinda that you love this guy because he's the he has the

Cleanest shop I've ever seen and

We decided you were going to teach me stuff because every time I'd send you a picture of a knife that I was trying to cut the bevels you you were sick for a couple

days oh no not a couple days, just maybe a few hours.

So I said, well, maybe I can get together and learn how to grind knives with you.

And Alan graciously said, said well let's just wait till

after Blade Show and I'll come to your shop and we'll do it right there and then the

COVID hit and we we didn't think that plan was going to happen because they canceled the blade show but you said I'm still coming

So yeah, so showed up here with your wife Valerie and we've had a she's been hanging out with Melinda and we've been today is Sunday no today is Monday we worked in the shop half a

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