Hi, everybody welcome back to Franklin Covey's On Leadership Series my name is

Scott Miller and I serve as your host an interviewer each week excited to announce

today's guest Ryan Holliday who is the author of the number one New York Times best-selling book

amongst nine that he's written in total. His current book is called Stillness

is the Key and Ryan's joining us today from Austin, Texas. Ryan, welcome to On Leadership.

Yeah, thank you so much for having me.

Nine books.

That's insane.

So are you a literature major?

How did you start?

And tell us a bit about your journey in terms of your

professional career and your life as an author and speaker acquaint our

audience to yourself. Yeah I'm definitely not a literature major. I'm actually a college dropout.

But what I did when I was about 19 years old,

I dropped out of college to be a research assistant

for a great writer named Robert Green,

who wrote the 48 Laws of Power,

the 33 Strategies of War.

And so for many years I sort of apprenticed as a writer.

And so I came to understand writing as both a craft and a business and then I had a career in marketing for many

years and those things converged in 2011 2012 when I wrote my first book.

I feel Ryan like we have rival sets because your book set is crushing mine.

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