Episode 864: Who Won?
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🗓️ 10 April 2026
⏱️ 79 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Who won the Iran War and Trump versus mega influencers will discuss'll discuss all this and more on this edition of the editors. |
| 0:23.1 | I'm Rich Lowry and I'm joined as always early some of the time by Andrew, Andrew Studderford, our old friend Dan Foster and the notorious MbD. |
| 0:32.2 | Michael Brendan Doherty. |
| 0:33.4 | You are, of course, listening to a Nashville podcast. |
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| 0:55.1 | I said anything. |
| 0:56.9 | So MBD, we've learned once again that if Donald Trump |
| 1:01.1 | is talking about the apocalypse, it means he's either thinking about causing the apocalypse |
| 1:06.6 | or looking for the fastest possible off-ramp out of a conflict that he can get. |
| 1:13.4 | So he threatens to destroy Iranian civilization and we get this ceasefire deal. |
| 1:18.5 | And by the way, I should apologize to our listeners because we offered a couple episodes ago |
| 1:23.9 | are over under date for when the conflict would end. And I said April 6, and it turned out to be April 7th. So I know our listeners expect more accuracy from my predictions. They expect perfection, not just incredible prescience. But we'll see whether this ceasefire actually holds. But I think people are having trouble and there's a lot of debate by very |
| 1:44.7 | reasonable and sensible people about what this actually means, because on the one hand, you |
| 1:48.5 | have this incredible military setback for Iran. I mean, its military has basically been destroyed |
| 1:55.5 | or significantly degraded, as they say, its economy has taken major hammer blows, |
| 2:01.1 | so it's already in a shambles. |
| 2:02.9 | It's going to take a very long time for it to reconstitute or get anywhere near the way it was, |
| 2:09.4 | if it ever can. |
| 2:10.8 | At the same time, it has this major strategic advantage now that it took in the course of the war, which is de facto control |
| 2:19.3 | of the Strait of Hormuz. They're supposed to open it up. They haven't opened it up yet, or they've |
| 2:24.6 | opened it up very much on their terms. They are deciding who goes through and who doesn't. They're |
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