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Gender Reveal

Episode 86: Zackary Drucker

Gender Reveal

Tuck Woodstock

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.71.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Tuck speaks with artist, filmmaker, and cultural producer Zackary Drucker (she/her). Topics include:

  • How a trans con artist taught Zackary to cut herself some slack 
  • Telling complicated trans stories on TV
  • Creating T4T representation before "T4T" was a thing
  • Gender clownery with Flawless Sabrina 
  • Plus: Commissioning a transphobia montage featuring Tucker Carlson's shitty dad

This Week in Gender: New York finally repeals its Walking While Trans law. 

The Lady and the Dale is streaming now on HBOMax. 

Zackary is on Instagram @zackarydrucker. We're also on Twitter and Instagram @gendereveal. 

Find transcripts of the show at genderpodcast.com.

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Logo: Ira M. Leigh
Music: Breakmaster Cylinder
Additional Music: "Thoughtless" by Blue Dot Sessions
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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, before we start the show, I want to tell you about a new podcast made by two friends

0:05.1

of gender reveal.

0:06.6

The show is called Cancel Me Daddy, an iconic name, and it's a show about the Cancel Culture

0:11.9

Grift Economy hosted by journalist Caitlin Burns, who you may remember from episode 48

0:17.6

of this podcast, and Oliver Ash Klein, one of the co-founders of the Trans Journalist

0:22.7

Association.

0:23.7

Together, Oliver and Caitlin promised to dispel censorship myths, laugh at outrageous

0:28.9

takes, and shed light on whose voices are being left out of the conversation.

0:33.8

Subscribe to Cancel Me Daddy wherever you get this podcast or you might get canceled.

0:53.8

Welcome to Gender Reel, a podcast where we hopefully get a little bit closer to understanding

0:58.9

what the hell gender is.

1:00.9

I'm your host and resident gender detective, Tuckwood Stop.

1:05.9

Hey everyone, I hope you're all hanging in there.

1:15.3

This week on the show, we have a surprise guest by which I mean it was a surprise to

1:19.4

me when I booked it like one week ago.

1:22.3

Zachary Drucker is here to talk about her new documentary series Lady and the Dail,

1:26.9

which chronicles, quote, the complex contradictory life of Elizabeth Carmichael, criminal,

1:32.7

auto-executive, and transgender pioneer.

1:35.5

I still that quote from The New York Times.

1:37.9

Zachary and I also talk about gender-clownery, Tucker Carlson's shitty dad, life after

1:44.0

the trans tipping point, and being T4T, pre-T4T.

1:48.4

So before we get to that, just a couple quick things.

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