You are listening to Feeding the Mouth That Bites You with Ashley Parrish and Jessica Pfeiffer.

A weekly podcast guide on parenting teens and launching them into the world.

As always, we are joined by psychologist and author, Dr. Ken Wilgus.

Hey, everyone, and welcome back.

Hey, there.

Hey, Dr. Ken.

How are you guys doing? I'm tired, but I have no real excuse for it.

Well, Jessica and I have been hard at work, Dr. Ken. So I'm tired and you're the ones that have been working.

That just doesn't sound. Yes. Thinking of all kinds of really great things to do.

What? What have you been working on? Prove it.

Well, we have been doing some research and we're coming up empty handed. But before we get

started, I know that you've got a great story for us. So why don't I toss the ball to you?

All right. So I get, we've talked about the great teenagers of history. And we've already

talked about Richard the second, Joan of Arc, who were teenagers. And again, this is because we

always think of teenagers as doing great things if they, you know, get first place in a writing contest, which is fine,

but there are young adults that have changed the world.

For example, you may remember in 1616, this is in the Americas,

the story of John Smith, who was captured by the Native Americans in America. And he wrote back to the queen about that episode

where he was just about to be killed by the chief, Po Hottin. And he says this. He said, two great

stones were brought before Pohotan. Then as many as could

laid hands on him, Smith, dragged him to them and thereon laid his head and being ready with their

clubs to beat his brains. Pocontas, the king's dearest daughter, when no entreaty could prevail, got his head in her arms,

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