Greetings to your listeners.

This is another exciting episode of the Remnant Podcast. This is Jonah Goldberg. This week's episode is brought to you by

Americans for Prosperity and as well as the National Review Institute. We'll hear more about that stuff later, but thanks to both of them.

We have in the studio in flesh and blood, despite our in response to somewhat eager Twitter demand.

We have Noah Rothman of Commentary Magazine, your associate editor.

Also a co-host of the Commentary Podcast, which I am a frequent listener to and mocker of, despite the fact that I like it very much.

There's always that old joke about, I think it was from Al Franken, about the original show Hannity and Combs, and it was Hannity and Combs.

They would put like homes and like ten point font and Hannity and like 30 point font. There is a certain aspect of that to the Commentary Podcast.

We've played with Jay Pod and friends.

Yeah, there's a certain kind of like pod and his entourage feel to it at times. He's gotten better and then he's gotten worse again.

It's his show, Jonah. We're privileged to even be there.

It's not the pod podcast. It's in the Commentary Podcast. Anyway, and of course you are the author of on just social justice and the unmaking of America.

I got that right.

That's where we're going to talk about mostly in a little bit, but since you're here and you are a renowned and recognized practitioner of the rank punditry arts,

I thought we would start since last night was the State of the Union. We would just do a little bit of that.

I generally despise State of the Union punditry, but it's also de-regur. We could kick that union. So what do you think about last night?

Well, I mean it was good for Donald Trump's speech and you could tell the moments where he probably chafed at the text because it was so ambitious and appealing to the better angels of our nature.

That's just not where he is. So well, I appreciate that. It's sort of felt a little bit forced and it's probably why it's going to be forgotten in about 48 hours.

Yeah, I think that's right. The other time has asked me to do a State of the Union preview and I got some stuff right and some stuff wrong.

But the one thing I'm really confident about is that by this Sunday, I wouldn't be sure. First of all, it'll seem like it was in the place of the scene era.

And it may be that not a single Sunday show talks about it because something will come up, right? Yeah, maybe.

Maybe not. Who knows? But I thought the single most interesting ad lib in that entire thing and maybe most interesting ad lib in Trump's presidency was last night when he's talking about the wall and he made up on the fly this line that he would like more immigrants than ever to come to the United States.

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