Hey friends, welcome back to another episode of the Carlos Whitaker podcast, but not just another

episode. This week, we're going back in with my mom. And last week was just a tease, because this

week she really lets you into her heart, just where she's at. And it's a very tender episode. So

I just appreciate you caring for it with the tenderness

that it deserves. My mom is my hero and there's not a lot more I want to say. So once you sit back

and let us talk a little bit more about what grief looks like, what her heart looks like,

what it really means to care for widows, the elderly. What does it feel like to feel unseen?

I think this episode is going to mean a lot. We'll see you on the other side.

You know, we were talking about your crocheting,

and it's so funny how everything has,

everything has a beginning,

and everything has a story.

Like, if I wouldn't have stopped and asked you,

so when'd you start crocheting? I never would have known that you actually started crocheting

so that you could get a dining room table. That is a craziest story. And I just think to myself,

like, like, it's so important for...

To talk to people. Yeah. Well, not even people. You're my mom. Right. So, like, I'm constantly,

you know, like telling people, you know, for those people listening right now, like, you know,

like, oh, like the other morning, Heather and I were camping, and I met a nuclear plant manager in the campsite next to me.

And before you know it, the guy's like telling me about his life and how he can't turn his brain

off.

And ever since he's retired, he still acts like he's a nuclear plant

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