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The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast

Episode 83, The David Chalmers Interview (Part II - Further Analysis and Discussion)

The Panpsycast Philosophy Podcast

Jack Symes | Andrew Horton, Oliver Marley, and Rose de Castellane

Education, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Courses

4.8612 Ratings

🗓️ 26 July 2020

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Introduction

The hard problem of consciousness is the problem of experience. How do 100 billion neurons come together to bring about a unified, conscious mind, and the rich tapestry of qualities that make up our world? This might be the most difficult problem in philosophy and science. No matter how rich our description of the brain, it seems that we'll still be left with this same question: where does consciousness come from and what is its place in nature?

Having coined the term 'the hard problem' in 1994, today, David Chalmers finds himself ranked amongst the world's most prominent thinkers. David is currently Professor of Philosophy and Neural Science at New York University, co-director of the Center for Mind, Brain, and Consciousness, Honorary Professor of Philosophy at the Australian National University, and co-director of the academic database PhilPapers. Amongst his many contributions, David is the author of The Conscious Mind, The Character of Consciousnessand Constructing the World. David's hundreds of papers, interviews, and talks, make up some of the most influential contributions to the field, breathing new life into the debate and inspiring a new wave of scholarship.

For many, the problem of consciousness goes beyond the dusty chalkboards of seminar rooms and into our day-to-day lives. Consciousness may well be the determining factor of what constitutes a worthwhile existence, or whether or not a being deserves our moral consideration. 

The stakes are higher than the nature of the world itself. It's time to wake up and smell the roses… how can we explain consciousness?

Contents

Part I. Consciousness

Part II. Further Analysis and Discussion


Transcript

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0:00.0

Pan

0:02.0

Psygast

0:04.0

Part two, further analysis and discussion.

0:22.9

So, David, at the start of introductory questions in last week's installment,

0:27.9

I think you mentioned that people thought in the conscious mind, your book of 1996,

0:33.0

you were arguing for a form of epiphenomenalism.

0:35.7

And this is the view that consciousness doesn't have any

0:38.0

causal powers. It's kind of like the puff of smoke of a train. It's just the side effect of it.

0:44.1

Are people wrong to think that was your view now? Because in, in the book, it seems,

0:49.6

had a similar reading that you were a type of naturalistic jewelist, would you say that this is the most plausible

0:55.1

view? Yeah, in the conscious mind, which came out in 1996, I was what I called a naturalistic

1:02.7

dualist, which was saying consciousness is distinct from any physical process, but we can still

1:08.4

subsume it under scientific law by positing laws that connect

1:13.4

physical processes and consciousness.

1:16.7

The kind of laws that I talked, I focused on the most

1:19.4

were laws from physical processes to consciousness.

1:23.9

And I suggested, it looks like the physical world

1:26.1

is itself causally closed, so not much

1:29.1

room for separate impact of consciousness on the physical world.

1:33.4

And that gives you a couple of options.

1:35.7

Option one is epiphenomenalism.

1:37.9

Consciousness is not playing any causal role.

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