Hey my mom's basement listeners you can find our episodes on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube and

Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. James if you're not aware is one of the few

active fighters in mixed martial arts who is also a coach. He coaches 12 fighters in the UFC

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