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The Editors

Episode 826: Trump’s File Flip

The Editors

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Politics, Charles C. W. Cooke, Conservatism, Conservative, Policy, Government, News, Jim Geraghty, Rich Lowry, Michael Brendan Dougherty, Current Events, Noah Rothman, Madeleine Kearns, Society & Culture, Public Policy, National Review

4.44.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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0:00.0

Trump flips on the Epstein files and is America First America only the future of right politics. We'll discuss all this and more on this edition of the editors. I'm Rich Lowry and I'm joined, as always by the right, Honorable Charles C.W. Cook, the good neighbor Noah Rothman and the sage of authenticity woods. Jim Garrity, you are of course. Listening to a Nashville podcast, our sponsors. This episode are Made In ExpressVPN and Strawberry, more about all of them and due course. If for some reason you're not already following us on a streaming service, by the way, you can find us everywhere from Spotify to Apple Podcasts. And if you like what you hear here, please consider giving us a glowing five-star review wherever you listen to your podcast. If you don't like what you hear here, please forget.

0:54.9

I said anything. So Jim Garrity, you're fortunate. You weren't on the Friday app and you could

1:01.4

because you likely would have been wrong like all the rest of us that said there was no way

1:05.9

that this House resolution to release the Epstein files, even if it was going to pass the House,

1:10.9

which seemed a certainty at that point, was going to pass the Senate, and Trump would be in the

1:14.8

difficult position of having to veto it. Instead, Trump has endorsed the release of the Epstein

1:20.2

files after fighting this tooth and nail, including just days ago personally lobbying some of

1:25.5

the Republican members who are signing on to this discharge petition.

1:29.4

And now the so-called jail break, as I say in Washington, when you're going to have a close

1:33.4

vote. And then it turns out it's going to pass. And all of a sudden, it's not a close vote anymore.

1:37.1

Everyone's in favor of it. The jail break is so big, Jim Garrity, it includes President Donald

1:42.9

J. Trump. Yeah, I'm glad that the president now says that House Republicans should vote to release

1:48.3

the Epstein files because we have nothing to hide. That was not the president's position

1:53.7

up until very recently. Back, you know, just last week, the White House invited Colorado Republican Lauren Bobert to a meeting in the White House Situation Room with Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Cash Patel to discuss her demand to release the files.

2:13.0

The argument was that they should not be released.

2:15.4

And, you know, look, I know with the East Wing demolished, maybe, you know, where you can have a meeting is a little limited in the White House.

2:22.3

But this is traditionally used for crises.

2:24.9

And it seemed to be just, you know, one, very symbolic and two, a sign of just how adamant the administration was that these, you know, documents not be released.

2:32.9

We should point out that these are documents related to both Jeffrey Epstein and

2:36.2

Giselaide Maxwell.

2:37.8

You may recall that Maxwell was at a low security facility in Florida.

2:44.2

Then the Department of Justice, the Assistant Attorney General,

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