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The Editors

Episode 808: Shifting Labels

The Editors

National Review

Politics, Charles C. W. Cooke, Conservatism, Conservative, Policy, Government, News, Jim Geraghty, Rich Lowry, Michael Brendan Dougherty, Current Events, Noah Rothman, Madeleine Kearns, Society & Culture, Public Policy, National Review

4.44.6K Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 77 minutes

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0:00.0

What we know about Charlie Kirk's assassin and Mom Donnie gets a big endorsement.

0:37.7

We'll discuss all this and more on this edition of the editors. I'm Rich Lauerian. I'm joined, as always, by the right, Honorable Charles C.W. Cook, the good neighbor, Noah Rothman, and the sage of authenticity woods. Jim Garrity, you are, of course, listening to a National View podcast. Our sponsor this episode is made in more about them and due course.

0:40.7

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0:43.6

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0:47.2

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0:49.6

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0:52.5

I said anything.

0:58.1

So Jim Garrity, Tyler Robinson is in custody. He is going to be accused here, arraigned as we speak sometime today, recording on Tuesday

1:06.0

morning for the murder of Charlie Kirk came from a conservative family.

1:13.6

He was extremely online.

1:16.6

This led to the ridiculous notion that he was a Groyper as a right winger who for some reason hated Charlie Kirk,

1:25.6

clearly completely absurd, And we've had confirmation

1:29.4

publicly from Utah Governor Spencer Cox that he was dating a boyfriend who was transitioning.

1:38.0

And there are also indications he was into furry culture, one of the engravings on the bullet casings. In fact, this is the spent casing

1:47.1

of the bullet that killed Kirk had a reference to a furry meme on it. What do you make of it?

1:54.3

I am very tempted to say, Rich, what's furry culture? And just see how you go through that explanation. But I'll skip over that

2:02.1

and I'll just observe that since, almost immediately since after the shooting, people were saying,

2:08.0

well, you don't know, we don't have the shooter, so we don't know the motive. How can you possibly

2:11.8

know the motive? How can you possibly say this was an example of left-wing violence. And look, it is true that I do not know

2:20.2

the shooter's viewpoint on campaign finance reform. I don't know how the shooter felt about tariffs,

2:25.8

but you know how I think we could all reasonably surmise how the shooter felt about Charlie

2:31.3

Kirk's continued ability to speak his mind on college campuses.

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