Well, Welcome to Gender Reveal, a podcast where we hopefully get a little bit closer to

understanding what the hell Gender is. I'm your host and resident gender detective, Tuckwoodstock. Hey everyone. I hope you're hanging in there. Welcome to the last

gender reveal episode of 2020. Between the full episodes and the mini bonus episodes and the feed drops we put out 28

episodes in your feed this year and honestly feeling okay about that considering the global pandemic and the 100 plus nights of protests

and me getting broken up with twice by the same person and like all of that all that stuff.

So this week on the show I'm excited to share my chat with

ABO Comics co-founder Casper Sonder. Casper has dedicated their life to advocating

for queer prisoners and helping them in the fight towards liberation.

And I learned so much from Casper in this conversation.

We talk about why incarcerated queer folks are not a monolith and why some trans women don't want

to be transferred to women's prisons.

We also talk about transitioning in prison, about not being allowed to touch anyone even before the pandemic.

Any sort of physical affection is barred, romantic relationships are barred, and advice for getting involved in prison abolition work.

To me, abolition really means more community building than anything else because we have to have strong

communities to be able to even entertain the idea of not having prisons.

But before we get to that real quick I know everyone is always grabbing at your

money this time of year I just want to say that if you like the work we do on the show the best way to support us is by joining us at Patreon.com slash gender where you will receive our weekly newsletter for as little as $1 a month or by simply incessantly telling everyone

you know to subscribe to gender review. This show does not have sponsors, we don't have a network

that pays us, it's mostly just me again in my

literal closet and sometimes other trans folks that help us out in various ways

which we pay for with the Patreon. So we appreciate you helping us out and in the meantime it's time for this week in gender

This week in gender if I had an editor or a boss or really anyone reviewing the episodes before I release them into the world they might say tuck there is so

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