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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 8: March Madness

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2017

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Episode 8 (about 58 minutes long) finds Professors Vladeck and Chesney discussing the legal, policy, and institutional issues raised by reports that President Trump has authorized CIA to resume control of drone operations in some circumstances, and that he also has added certain parts of Yemen and Somalia to the current list of zones of active hostilities.  They also provide an update on litigation relating to the revised refugee/travel executive order.  In addition, they take up the topic of "proxy detention" of terrorism suspects, fleshing out the concept and its legal implications.  From there they talk about a recent jury conviction of an al Qaeda member, a person whose circumstances might have left him prosecuted instead by a military commission had he been captured earlier (and had Italy not insisted on precluding such a result, as a condition of extraditing the defendant).  Last but not least, they note (but don't get terribly exercised by) the release of security-related materials from Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch's time at DOJ, and then they wrap up with predictions about the NCAA tournament that almost certainly will prove to be wildly off.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the National Security Law podcast. This is episode eight, March Madness.

0:07.7

And Bobby, there's also the NCAA basketball tournament.

0:10.3

Oh, yeah, is that going on right now? What a funny coincidence. It's March 17th, the Friday,

0:15.8

and we are broadcasting from Austin, Texas, on the sidelines, South by Southwest.

0:21.2

And the NCAA Women's basketball tournament,

0:23.3

where the University of Texas Longhorns are currently putting a whooping on central Arkansas.

0:27.6

That's what I like to hear. Way to go, Longhorns.

0:29.9

Well, these days, women's basketball is about all we have.

0:33.1

We also have volleyball, which is pretty awesome. Can't wait for them to come back.

0:36.2

True.

0:36.9

We'll see about the rest.

0:38.2

This podcast is brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.

0:41.6

I'm Bobby Chesney, and I'm a professor here at Texas Law.

0:44.8

I'm Steve Vladick, and I'm Bobby's, I guess, left-hand man.

0:47.8

Left-hand man?

0:48.4

I like to think that I am the Robin to your Lego Batman.

0:52.4

Oh, gosh. the Robin to your Lego Batman. Oh gosh, I don't even know where to go with that other than,

0:54.8

you know, please stop. Bobby, I think the podcast is brought to you by, we already said that.

0:59.6

Yeah, I've already said that. You know, without music, this whole thing just seems amateurish,

1:03.4

but we bring it up with our professional repartee. Our professional repartee and our planning.

1:07.4

I mean, I think the extent to which we really thought carefully through all of the topics.

1:10.8

It just shows. You know, speaking of planning, we do have an agenda. We're going to talk, of course, about the latest developments with the travel ban in Executive Order 2.0. We will have a lot to say this week about developments when it comes to counterterrorism and the use of lethal force. We have both a story about the apparent return

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