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Do you think that the Gardner Heist was hatched out of TRC out of body?

No.

The FBI has said they believe the two thieves that actually went in are dead.

The guy who cuffed me, he was making sure that they weren't too tight on my wrist.

And he adjusted it several times and he said,

you're going to be here for a long time so I don't want these to be too tight.

So he was real calm and real nice about it.

And he also several times said, sorry to have to do this.

A woman of considerable means and vision and with a passion for old masters begins collecting them.

Rembrandt, Rubens, Raphael.

Her collection goes so vast she builds an Italian Renaissance style palace in which to showcase it.

And when she dies she leaves it all to us, her art loving heirs.

But her small jewel of a museum lacks funds, its security is weak and in time it attracts the scheming of thieves.

These details could only belong to one museum, the Isabella Stewart Gardner in Boston.

But what if we told you that these facts are also written into the DNA of another museum?

One that is about 200 miles away in Glen's Falls, New York, the Hyde collection.

Did you have guards?

No guards, no.

We just had volunteer ladies who when we were open we were meandering around and usually chatting with themselves.

Fred Fisher was director of the Hyde for a dozen years starting in 1978 when the museum was in its 15th year.

It was the creation of the heirs of a paper fortune who built her Italian palace overlooking the family mail in 1912.

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