You're going to do you know the mmm and you're going to do you Oh, All right, folks, welcome to the team V-Tac podcast. I'm your host Kyle Lamb, and today I'm with

John Brasser, VP of Commercial Product Management from Siggs Hour.

Correct.

Doggon, that's a mouthful.

It is a mouthful. So why are you, is that why your cards are 8 and a half by 11 sheets of paper?

No, that's just because I write really big.

With a crayon.

With a crayon. Or crayon or magic marker either one all right so we're we're at

Siggs booth here at the shot show 2020 and I wanted to get John on the podcast and

this is hopefully people understand that this isn't

a commercial this is us we hang out we do other stuff other than shoot sake guns but that's

actually how we met you came to a we fish yeah we fish and hopefully we

hunt one of these days exactly every time I hear a great hunting story from

John I'm pissed because I'm not involved with it so most of them I just make them off they're not real I just try to get mad you and your partner in crime

Patrick there right yeah so so kind of tell me what what is your job with SIG?

So my job with SIG basically is to help be the voice of the customers in the company

and come up with the product strategy.

So our biggest thing we do is look at what our engineering teams are developing and what

their technologies are and then try to apply that to what the best product we could possibly

make are.

So for example this year, our big thing is the cross bolt rifle

that's a couple years in the making that we've been talking about it and

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