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Episode 79: Breaking Iran's machinery of oppression

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Haviv Rettig Gur

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4.91K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Iran is burning. The streets are full of marchers demanding an end to the regime. Thousands of protesters have been murdered by the regime in recent days — we may never know exactly how many. President Trump is threatening military action. But is all this enough to bring down the regime?


How do you dismantle a revolutionary Islamist government that has proven impervious to domestic protest and international pressure?


Here’s how.



This episode was sponsored anonymously by a family friend of former hostage Alon Ohel in celebration of his return from Hamas captivity on October 13. We wish him and all the survivors a speedy recovery.



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Musical intro by Adam Ben Amitai.

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0:00.0

Iran is on fire.

0:06.0

The regime is shooting protesters.

0:09.0

It's cutting the Internet.

0:11.0

It's daring the world to do something.

0:13.0

And the question that all of that raises,

0:16.0

what may be the central question for us outsiders looking in from the outside. Is the most basic one? Is the

0:22.4

Islamic Republic? Is this regime that has ruled Iran for 47 years? Is it actually

0:27.8

fellible? Can it be brought down? Or does it have some kind of structural advantage? And I'm going to

0:33.5

try and argue that it has such an advantage given to it by its particular brand of

0:38.1

Islamist political ideology, basically a willingness to burn the house down, that makes it much,

0:44.1

much more durable than Westerners want to believe. The Chancellor of Germany has said this regime

0:49.2

is on its way out. President Trump has been very gung-ho about Iranians continuing to protest and help is coming, he said.

0:57.8

But in fact, maybe this regime actually has advantages that if we don't understand, we won't be helpful to ordinary Iranians,

1:05.4

who we know that most ordinary Iranians want change, want this regime gone.

1:10.3

I want to also say something personal

1:12.5

for a moment. I'm watching this as an Israeli, as a Jew, as somebody who lives in this region,

1:18.6

who spent years trying to understand this region without turning human beings into symbols.

1:23.0

Just because they're my enemies doesn't mean they're not complicated three-dimensional human beings

1:27.7

with stories that they're embedded in and understandings of the world around them.

1:31.5

It's very easy to talk about Iran in these abstractions, in these symbols.

1:36.3

It's a regime.

1:37.7

It's a nuclear file.

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