Episode 787: Woodrow Wilson: The Light Withdrawn
Newt's World
Gingrich 360
4.6 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 15 December 2024
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Newt talks with former Congressman Chris Cox about his new book, "Woodrow Wilson: The Light Withdrawn," which offers a comprehensive reassessment of Woodrow Wilson's life and his controversial roles in the movements for racial equality and women's suffrage. Their conversation covers Wilson's complex legacy, highlighting his deep-seated prejudices and their impact on 20th century America. Cox shares insights from his extensive research, including Wilson's evolving stance on women's suffrage and his staunch support for segregation. The discussion also covers Wilson's health issues, which significantly affected his presidency, and the political dynamics of his era. Cox provides a nuanced view of Wilson, portraying him as a flawed, yet influential figure in American history.
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| 0:00.0 | On this episode of Nutes World, more than a century after he dominated American politics, Woodrow Wilson still fascinates. |
| 0:12.2 | In his new book, Woodrow Wilson, The Light, Withdrawn, Congressman Christopher Cox offers a panoramic reassessment of Wilson's life and his controversial |
| 0:23.1 | role in the movements for racial equality and women's suffrage. A vivid picture of |
| 0:29.4 | Wilson emerges, variously influenced by politics, shifting social mores, and his own lived experience. |
| 0:37.8 | Wilson is not the flawless paragon of legend, |
| 0:41.2 | but a complicated progressive whose deep-seated prejudices |
| 0:44.9 | scarred not only his own legacy, |
| 0:47.7 | but the broader social landscape of 20th century America. |
| 0:52.3 | Here to discuss his new book, |
| 0:54.6 | I'm really pleased to welcome my guest, |
| 0:57.3 | an old friend who I served with in Congress, |
| 1:00.1 | former Congressman Chris Cox. |
| 1:17.1 | Chris, Mr and thank you for joining me on News World. |
| 1:18.5 | Well, it's really a pleasure. |
| 1:24.8 | When last I saw you, you were doing a variety of very busy things, including chairing the U.S. Security's Exchange Commission. |
| 1:26.7 | You'd had a very significant role in the U.S. Securities Exchange Commission. You'd had a very significant role |
| 1:28.8 | in the U.S. House. You had been in a senior associate counsel to the president. And now here we |
| 1:34.9 | have this great book. How did all those personal experiences in the real world affect how you |
| 1:40.8 | approached thinking about Wilson? Well, of course, Wilson himself, you know, as a writer and scholar of historian yourself, |
| 1:50.8 | has been a consequential president throughout the 20th century and the 21st. |
| 1:56.6 | He will always be consequential, whatever one makes of him. So he stood out, you know, as a candidate for a biography for those reasons alone. But I also got interested in Wilson because of his role in women's suffrage. Ever since I was in law school, I'd been interested in how women got the vote and why it took so long. |
| 2:19.9 | In the early 1970s, I wrote an article for the Harvard Law Review about the first Supreme Court case to hold that the 14th Amendment applied to sex discrimination, but we now call gender discrimination. |
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