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The Editors

Episode 787: A Pre-Fourth Celebration

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Politics, Charles C. W. Cooke, Conservatism, Conservative, Policy, Government, News, Jim Geraghty, Rich Lowry, Michael Brendan Dougherty, Current Events, Noah Rothman, Madeleine Kearns, Society & Culture, Public Policy, National Review

4.44.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2025

⏱️ 82 minutes

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U-Pen Capitulates. Plus, is America still lovable? We'll discuss all this and more on this special July 4th edition of The Editors. I'm Rich Lowry, and I'm joined as always by the right honorable Charles C. W. Cook, the Dominator, Dominic Pino, and the notorious M. B. D. Michael Brendan Doherty. You are, of course, listening to a National View podcast.

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So MBD, we had news a day or two ago now that University of Pennsylvania regrets having male athletes compete against female athletes in single sex sports is going to go back and correct the record and is going to apologize to the affected female athletes.

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I had to rub my eyes a couple times on this one. I read the read and savored the statement a few times. It's a little

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bit like Dobbs coming down. Unbelievable victory for the Trump administration and for common sense

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and for these female athletes who had to deal with the aggravation, the frustration, the

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embarrassment of having spent years and

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years and years in the pool to become top-notch collegiate swimmers. And most infamously, this

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so-called Leah Thomas from UPN comes out of nowhere, you know, winning sprint races,

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winning the equivalent of marathon races winning everything

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and none of these girls had heard of this person and like wait a minute it finally occurs to them

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he's a guy and of course they had to share locker rooms with them etc what do you make of it

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i mean i think it's very welcome it is is like I said, a victory for common sense.

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I think you pen probably at the time they thought that they were on the edge of a trend that was going to affect everything, you know, that like soon we'd be seeing players in the WNBA who were born men you know um and that

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didn't have that hasn't happened and there's been a huge um a huge backlash um uh you know

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beginning first focusing on um children and the treatment of children with

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gender dysphoria, then moving on to the sports issue and preserving female athletics and Title IX

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and female spaces generally. And so I think this is a very welcome thing i'm not sure where we

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