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Back you're here, right?

Yeah, yeah. Can you hear me?

And Zach is out in Phoenix, and so we're doing this stuff remote.

And first of all, I want to thank you for coming on uh i am you know been sort of quoting some of your work

at times particularly the stuff you've done on on protein overfeeding and stuff i think it's

fascinating and i sure just just for my edification what is your sort of area of expertise

you know beyond these protein studies?

What is kind of, what are you been studying over the years?

Yeah, sort of my broad base, if you look at my scientific training, it ranges from,

my initial doctoral work was actually in skeletal muscle, hypertrophy, and hyperplasia.

I followed that up with some work looking at androgen physiology.

I was actually into anabolic steroid research for a long time.

I quit that for various reasons.

And then I transitioned over more towards sports nutrition, sports supplements as it applies to

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