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Episode 78: Jeff Phillips talks about physiologic episodes among tactical aircrew

STEM-Talk

Dawn Kernagis and Ken Ford

Health & Fitness, Nutrition, Science, Natural Sciences, Alternative Health

4.6694 Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2018

⏱️ 58 minutes

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SEO: Jeff Phillips, Naval Medical Research Unit, University of Alabama, F-22 Raptors, hypoxia, oxygen saturation measurement, arterial gas embolism, aircraft oxygen systems, physiologic episodes, Delores Etter Award, Ken Ford,Dawn Kernagis,Jon Clark,IHMC Today’s interview is with IHMC Research Scientist Dr. Jeff Phillips. Jeff joined IHMC a year ago after spending six years as a research psychologist at the Naval Medical Research Unit in Dayton, Ohio. He worked almost exclusively on hypoxia in tactical aviation and was part of team that was instrumental in getting the F-22 Raptors back into operation after a series of hypoxia-related episodes among jet pilots. In 2012, Jeff won the Dolores Etter Award, which the Department of Navy annually awards to its top performing scientists and engineers. Jeff is a University of Alabama graduate who earned his Ph.D. in experimental psychology. At IHMC, he works on research that ranges from physical and cognitive performance in extreme conditions to the role that ketone esters can play in protecting special operators from hypoxia, fatigue and other issues. Because Dawn Kernagis was in London giving a presentation when we conducted our interview with Jeff, IHMC Senior Researcher Jon Clark joined Ken Ford to co-host the episode. In today’s episode, we discuss: [00:15:45] Jeff’s participation on a team that investigated hypoxia-like episodes F-22 pilots in the Air Force were having. [00:17:02] The problems with aircraft oxygen systems (OBOGs) and the related physiologic episodes (PE) that extend beyond the F-22 to virtually all frontline tactical jet aircraft. [00:18:19] The physiological effects of hypoxia on the brain and the associated cognitive and perceptual performance deficits. [00:19:54] The most promising technologies for detecting a hypoxia event. [00:29:10] The challenge of understanding what may be a multifaceted phenomenon like OBOGS-related PE events. [00:32:30] Studies that have shown pure oxygen in the lungs causes the alveolar cells to collapse. [00:37:10] The possibility that increased breathing (hyperventilation) may be occurring in aircrew involved in PE events who develop rapid onset hypoxia-like symptoms. [00:48:36] The role that mindfulness plays in elite performance as well as day-to-day life. Show notes: [00:06:06] Jeff talks about growing up in Sandflat, Alabama. [00:06:57] Jon asks Jeff what he was like as a kid. [00:07:32] Jeff talks about the impact that reading Stephen Hawking’s “A Brief History of Time” had on him. [00:08:19] Jeff explains how he headed off to the University of Alabama expecting to become a newspaperman, but ended up switching his major to psychology. [00:09:50] Jon asks Jeff about his mentors at Alabama who encouraged him to purse a doctorate in experimental psychology. [00:11:50] Jeff talks about a paper he helped author on handshaking and how it generated so much attention that he was interviewed by the Associated Press and network news shows. [00:14:16] Jon asks Jeff how he ended up at the Naval Aerospace Medical Research Laboratory in Pensacola, Florida. [00:15:02] Ken asks Jeff to describe the work he did at the Pensacola lab. [00:15:45] Jeff talks about becoming part of a team that investigated hypoxia-like episodes F-22 pilots in the Air Force were having when the Pensacola lab relocated to Dayton, Ohio. [00:17:02] Ken points out that problems with aircraft oxygen systems (OBOGs) and the related physiologic episodes (PE) extended beyond the F-22 and affected virtually all frontline tactical jet aircraft. Ken asks Jeff to talk about the how the different military services approached the problem. [00:18:19] Ken asks Jeff about the physiological effects of hypoxia on the brain and the associated cognitive and perceptual performance deficits. [00:19:16] Jon asks Jeff about his participation in studies that assessed different oxygen saturation measurement techniqu...

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0:00.0

Welcome to STEM Talk.

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Stem Talk.

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Stem Talk.

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Stem Talk.

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Stem Talk, where we introduce you to fascinating people who passionately inhabit the scientific and technical frontiers of our society.

0:14.0

Hi, I'm your host, Don Cornagus, and joining me to introduce today's podcast as the man behind the curtain, Dr. Ken Ford, IHMC's director and chairman

0:21.1

of the double secret selection committee that selects all the guests who appear on STEM Talk.

0:24.6

Hi, Don, great to be here. Today's interview is with a colleague of ours, Dr. Jeff Phillips.

0:30.7

Although we touched on many subjects, the focus was around his work on hypoxia-like physiologic episodes

0:37.4

that military pilots are experiencing

0:39.6

in tactical aviation across nearly every platform that relies on onboard oxygen generation systems.

0:47.1

Prior to the development and deployment of onboard oxygen generation systems, the need to use

0:53.1

liquid oxygen caused range, safety, and logistics

0:56.8

issues. Understanding and mitigating this problem has become a top priority for the military

1:02.4

aviation community. In our interview with Jeff, we did a deep dive on this subject, and I hope

1:08.2

the listeners find it interesting. So unfortunately, I was not around for our interview with Jeff. I was actually in London giving a presentation.

1:15.6

So our IHMC colleague, Dr. John Clark, was kind enough to fill in for me and of course did an amazing job.

1:21.6

In addition to his role as a senior research scientist at IHMC, John is a six-time space shuttle crew surgeon and an associate professor

1:28.5

of neurology and space medicine at Baylor College of Medicine. And prior to NASA, John enjoyed a

1:33.1

distinguished career in the Navy. Regular listeners of STEM Talk will recall that John was our guest

1:39.1

on episodes 55 and 56. And that was an excellent podcast.

1:44.8

But before Ken and John get today's interview with Jeff, we have some housekeeping to take care of.

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