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The Strength Running Podcast

Episode 78: Jason Koop on Coaching Competence and Smarter Training

The Strength Running Podcast

Jason Fitzgerald

Health & Fitness, 10k, Beginnerrunning, Marathontraining, Fitness, Injuryprevention, Marathon, Halfmarathon, Running, Sports

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2018

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

As a runner himself, Jason Koop has two top-10 finishes at the Leadville Trail 100 and has finished some of ultrarunning's most challenging races like the Badwater 135, Wasatch 100, and the Hardrock 100.

He's the Director of Coaching at Carmichael Training Systems where he's been for over a decade working with runners, cyclists, and triathletes.

Today, coach Jason Koop focuses more on trail ultramarathoners, guiding some of the best ultra runners in the country:

  • Dakota Jones, winner of the 2018 Pike's Peak Marathon (after he cycled 250 miles in the four days before the race...)
  • Missy Gosney, 4th at the 2015 Hardrock 100 Mile
  • Timothy Olson, former course record holder of the Western States Endurance Run

This wide-ranging conversation covers a lot:

  • The nuances and pros/cons of progression runs
  • Why (and how) to never let yourself become more than 10% detrained
  • The impact of climate change on the sport of running
  • What Jason Koop wishes he could tell his 20-year old self
  • How he continually learns about running, coaching, and exercise science

Our conversation is a must-listen for aspiring coaches, ultrarunners, and running geeks who want to dive a little deeper into training theory.

Transcript

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Ready, set go.

0:04.0

This is episode 78 with one of the top ultra-marathon coaches in the country and the director of

0:09.3

coaching for Carmichael training systems, Mr. Jason Coop.

0:13.0

Here we are again everyone. Welcome back to the Strength Running Podcast. I'm fresh off a workout

0:29.2

so I'm feeling a little fatigued, a little sore, my throat is a little dry from all that hard breathing on the track, but you know what? I love this feeling. It's such a great reminder that you're alive and even though I'm feeling a little bit less than stellar right now it's one of the

0:45.5

aspects of running that I absolutely love. So okay before I start writing love letters to running

0:51.1

I want to talk more about today's episode so you know what you're

0:54.4

getting into. I'm speaking with Jason Coop who's been coaching for almost 20

0:58.9

years now and he now works with some of the country's top trail ultra marathon runners, folks like

1:04.8

Dakota Jones, Timothy Olson, Missy Gosney, and many others. And what we're going to

1:10.0

talk about is a whole wide range of topics today from progression runs, how to think about

1:15.8

time off from running, and how runners are uniquely impacted by environmental damage.

1:20.8

But before we dive in, I want to thank Sammy for leaving me a really thoughtful review of the

1:25.6

podcast on iTunes, saying this is easily his favorite running podcast and who just ran his first

1:31.6

marathon, Injury Free, using the advice here on the

1:34.8

podcast and also on the strength running website. Well Sammy it's my pleasure

1:39.2

to have made a small contribution to your running and thank you so much for the review. It means a lot.

1:44.4

I also want to thank Inside Tracker for doing something special for Strength Running

1:48.7

Podcast listeners this month only. This isn't available forever, only until the end of November so act fast but they created a

1:56.4

special discount code that's going to save you $200 on the ultimate tier of

2:02.1

their blood test this is a test that I got for myself and I really

2:06.0

loved everything about it from how easy it was, how thorough the testing was, and how well

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