On Cheaper's Cripes say everybody how in the heck are you it's me Charlie your fearless host of the Cripes cast

And if you're new to the podcast this is the podcast where we talk to people for and or from the Midwest today my guest is a very special midwesterner

He and I go all the way back to high school

Went to market high school in Milwaukee, Wisconsin right over there off off 30-fifth of Wisconsin great dude

He actually if he and my brother were really good friends there the same year. I was a year younger. They would make fun of me

Um, I'm over it. I'm over it clearly. We were all on the newspaper together

My brother was the editor-in-chief. I wrote I think he was a sports editor. I think he said and then the arts editor

I ended up being coming the editor-in-chief hashtag napatism

But anyway, that was back then

But what we were talking about is just I was journey into the entertainment

industry he he and I actually then went on to sort of come up together a little bit in Los Angeles

We were both trying to break into different parts of the industry at the same time. So

It was fun talking about that especially if you're interested to how someone goes from you know

Just being a kid in the Midwest to getting a gig in

Writing or producing or podcasting or whatever it is

So and by the way Iro hosts the podcast keep it

You can find it anywhere you find podcasts. He's also a writer on a bunch different shows including on coupled Q-Force

Nikki fresh daybreak

A bunch of other stuff. So

We get a little industry talk in here a little Midwest talk a little reminiscing of old times

I think you're gonna enjoy it. But before we get to that

I do want to say thank you to everybody who came out to the shows at the Orphium in Madison and

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