Episode 76, René Descartes (Part V - Further Analysis and Discussion)

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🗓️ 4 April 2020

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

All my life, I have been fed apples from that tree. I was told it was the only tree worth eating from. Every day, whether it was in school or in the church, someone would arrive with a basket, and I would take what they offered. Today a similar basket lays in front of me, full of apples I've been saving so to take a closer inspection.

Check those apples for me would you? Why so worried? Surely if they are good, there is nothing to worry about. You've heard of the Italian who was punished for checking, you say? I understand. I will do it myself.

There are too many in there to check one by one. I shall take them all out and only place back in the basket the ones that are certifiably good! I think the Italian might have been onto something, they all look rotten! I must check closer. I refuse to accept that they are all bad!

Ah, there is one. That will do. Perhaps the seeds can be used to grow more good apples...

Contents

Part I. The Life of René Descartes.

Part II. Meditations on First Philosophy, 1-2.

Part III. Meditations on First Philosophy, 3-4.

Part IV. Meditations on First Philosophy, 5-6.

Part V. Further Analysis and Discussion.

Links

René Descartes, Meditations on First Philosophy: in which are demonstrated the existence of God and the distinction between the human soul and body (Early Modern Texts).

Transcript

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0:00.0	Pan
0:02.0	Psygast
0:04.0	Part 5
0:06.0	Further analysis
0:20.0	and discussion Welcome back to the final instalment of our series
0:26.0	on René Descartes. We've done a deep dive full of the exposition of the text itself with some
0:32.0	of our own analyses as we've been going, but here's the meat of the matter. An evil demon
0:37.1	is not deceiving you. This is the the meat of the matter. An evil demon is not deceiving you.
0:38.2	This is the greatest part of the show, where we, you know, claws are out, and we're
0:44.3	going to be thinking about Descartes' meditations under a critical lens.
0:49.5	We've got a bunch of things that we want to cover, particularly, let's start in with the
0:53.4	sixth meditation, which we didn't analyze in any great depth beforehand, and then moving on to the more of the general stuff of the mind-body interaction and back to the Couguito, the most famous part as well. So we'll jump right into it here. I haven't got it directly in front of me, so I'm going to recall it off the top of my head. And if I stumble and my stick turns
1:11.8	bendy, then please put me back on the straight and narrow. I was trying to say the word straight
1:16.2	there. It just came out peculiar. I wasn't trying to be funny. So Hobbes says in one of his objections
1:21.6	to Descartes that it's not the case that God can't deceive us in any circumstance. He's an infinitely good God. So it's not the case that God can't deceive us in any circumstance. He's an infinitely good God.
1:30.4	So it's not the case that he might never deceive us because sometimes deceiving people is good.
1:35.3	For example, a doctor might deceive you and say, this won't hurt one bit, Jimmy, and then prick, in goes the needle.
1:41.6	He deceived you for a good reason. A father might deceive you
1:44.6	for whatever reason, say, you know, don't worry, I'll be fine as he runs into the burning
1:50.6	building to save his mother. Sometimes deception is good, so good God should be able to deceive us.
1:56.1	And Hobbes thinks he's got a strong criticism here because the outside world is only secured by our
2:02.7	knowledge that God is good and wouldn't deceive us of things systematically. So knock down
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