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Our Fake History

Episode #76- How Does Jon Waterlow Make Sense of Stalin Jokes?

Our Fake History

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History, Education, Society & Culture

4.73.7K Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2018

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

When I spoke to Jon Waterlow he reminded me that George Orwell once said that every joke is a tiny revolution. Well, it turns out jokes can be even more than that. In his fantastic new book, It's Only a Joke Comrade: Humour, Trust and Everyday Life Under Stalin, Waterlow explores the fascinating world of jokes in the Soviet Union during the 1930's. This week Jon joins me to discuss Stalin jokes, how we perceive reality, and the power and limits of political humour. Tune in and find out how Reagan's sense of humour, pencil techniques, and mind viruses all play a roll in the story.      
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0:00.0

In the 1980s, when Ronald Reagan was the president of the United States, the Cold War seemed

0:13.7

to heat up one last time.

0:17.6

Anti-Soviet rhetoric became something of a hallmark of the Reagan administration.

0:22.8

It was Reagan, after all, who called the Soviet Union, quote, the evil empire.

0:29.5

And who could forget Reagan's most often-quoted challenge to the Soviet leadership in Berlin?

0:37.2

Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.

0:45.7

But aside from these more grandiose moments of anti-communist rhetoric, Reagan also loved

0:52.4

peppering his speeches with Soviet humor.

0:56.3

He loved telling jokes that he claimed were told on the street by average Soviet citizens.

1:04.0

Here's the gipper himself with a few great examples of this.

1:09.6

And then the reason was that I heard was about the man walking along the street at night,

1:17.6

Moscow, Soviet soldier called to him to halt.

1:20.6

He started to run the show of soldier shot him.

1:23.4

Another man said, why did you do that?

1:25.5

Well, he said, curfew.

1:27.1

Well, he said, it isn't curfew yet.

1:29.3

He said, I know. He's a friend of mine.

1:30.5

I don't know where he lives. He couldn't have made it.

1:34.4

I heard one about a fellow who went to the KGB to report that he lost his parrot.

1:39.9

The KGB asked him why he was bothering him.

1:42.1

Why didn't he just report it to the local police?

1:45.1

Well, he answered, I just want you to know that I don't agree with a thing what parrot has to say.

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