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The Editors

Episode 746: Powell, the Pentagon, and the Pope

The Editors

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Politics, Charles C. W. Cooke, Conservatism, Conservative, Policy, Government, News, Jim Geraghty, Rich Lowry, Michael Brendan Dougherty, Current Events, Noah Rothman, Madeleine Kearns, Society & Culture, Public Policy, National Review

4.44.6K Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Today on The Editors, Rich, Jim, MBD, and Noah discuss the upheaval in the Pentegon, Trump’s beef with Fed Chair Hegseth, Jerome Powell, and the pope's death.

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0:00.0

What's going on at Pete Heskess Pentagon and Will Trump Fire the Chairman of the Federal Reserve?

0:21.3

Plus, Pope Francis passes away.

0:23.8

We'll discuss all this more on this edition of the editors.

0:26.5

I'm Bruce Lowry.

0:27.0

I'm joined as always by the sage of authenticity, was Jim Garrity, the good neighbor, Noah Rothman, and the notorious MBD.

0:35.5

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0:58.0

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0:59.8

So Jim Garrity, we got some crazy stuff going on at the Pentagon.

1:05.6

Three folks, frog marched out of the Pentagon based on a leak investigation.

1:11.2

These are people close to Pete Hex-Seth.

1:15.3

Apparently in a leak investigation initiated by his chief of staff who's also being moved out.

1:21.3

So it's a bit of a circular firing squad.

1:25.6

The fired employees say they don't know why they're fired and this is a shame

1:30.1

because they're so loyal to Donald Trump. It is America First foreign policy, whereas Hexeth is talking

1:36.4

about leakers and lo and behold, all of a sudden there are all these negative stories in the

1:40.2

press just when these leakers are made to exit the building what do you make of it those of us

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