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I do Tom, over the last six months, I have been working with an old

colleague of mine, so I was let go from my university job and at the same time someone I know there left and while I was at the

university I had created a podcast with him and I was literally just a voice in

the podcast that was scripted in to ask a question once in a while.

That was it.

I did the intro, I did the outro in a reading voice and then I literally just asked him

questions so he could basically expound on some things.

The person was a law professor and a legal activist and a rat few, like an asylum activist and he did this podcast called Lawful Assembly.

And so we did that podcast together while I was at my old university.

Can I ask how many years did you guys do that?

So he was he wasn't very good at putting things together.

He was I would tell him you know you got to do it weekly.

He's like I can't no way I could do it weekly with my current schedule. He was a you know the ombudsman to the university. He was an adjunct law professor. He was and he did like he's a he's also a Reverend like an ordained minister so he's he's also a Reverend outside of of work so he just had like he's always busy so I would say you need to do it every week and he'd say yeah I'll try to do it like once a month so so we did it for many years but we only got

39 episodes total time passes and I get let go and he reaches out to me he says I really like to continue the

podcast and I say well I'm not going to do what we were doing because I don't want to do

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