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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Episode 739: Lindsey Sais, Same-Sex Marriage, Believe in Savior/Church, Overcoming Addition

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2024

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

My friend Lindsey Sais joins us to share her powerful story. Lindsey (early 40s, married for 5 years to her wife Connie, lives in Raleigh NC) joins us to bravely share her story of being divorced at age 23, coming out as gay that same year, working through addiction, being an ex-felon, and suicidal ideation. Lindsey talks about how addiction is not a moral failure—but rather a human reality from taking drugs/alcohol—which often starts to escape pain. Lindsey shares the process she took (along with God’s help) to become sober on Feb 13, 2013—it is a moving story that gives hope to others. Lindsey talks about how Christ’s love/atonement is not earned—it is just there for all of us—and how she accesses that love in her darkest days to feel hope and healing. Lindsey shared many lessons, perspectives, and insights for those in dark places to find a way forward—and the positive role of her parents on this long road. Lindsey talks about finding her soulmate in her wife Connie and how that relationship (based on trust, communication, and loyalty) has helped her become a better person and have more stability. Lindsey, who had her Latter-day Saint membership withdrawn in 2022, talks about her constant testimony of the Church and attending her supportive Ward. Thank you, Lindsey, for your courage to be on the podcast and share your story which helps so many find hope, healing, and peace. Honored to have you on the podcast and feel such a strong Sprit as you share your story. Links: Lindsay on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/palomas.gris https://www.instagram.com/kantyoudigit Lift and Love Story: https://www.instagram.com/p/CVA-1laBcnh/?igsh=MWc2NXNxM2hrcmQ3eA%3D%3D Ministering to LGBTQ Latter-Day Saint FB Group: Ministering Resources to support LGBTQ+ Latter-day Saints

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.

0:09.1

As you may realize, we're trying to do exclusively LGBTQ-focused podcasts.

0:15.0

I've made some exceptions in 2024.

0:18.3

I'm also looking at getting a couple guest hosts to host the non-LGBQ podcasts.

0:25.2

So that these stories still exist on the platform, we just have multiple hosts bringing them to you.

0:32.3

Because it's really the guests that make the podcast go.

0:36.5

I'd love to scale that and keep it going.

0:39.4

So that's just a housekeeping thing and a kind of a directional thing.

0:43.1

My guest on today's podcast, joining me from Raleigh, North Carolina, is my friend Lindsay

0:49.7

Seis.

0:50.5

Welcome to the podcast, Lindsay.

0:53.8

Hi, Richard.

0:54.7

Thank you so much for giving me this opportunity.

0:57.2

I appreciate it.

0:58.8

And Lindsay's last name is spelled S-A-I-S, and she coached me on how to spell it, say it right,

1:05.7

because she says it rhymes with nice and rice and size.

1:09.4

So actually, that was very helpful for me.

1:12.1

Let me read you an email I got from Lindsay.

1:15.5

And sometimes I read the original email I get from a guest that does a great job of just

1:21.2

summing up, you know, kind of the content we're going to hear in the podcast.

1:25.5

I'm Dear Papa Osler, my path with Tanner Hanks, who I've met at least once.

1:31.8

I've had a good conversation with Tanner, terrific young man, paths crossed about a year ago.

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